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Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by posterman » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:03 PM UTC

xnorswap wrote: post #23

"Introducing" without actually just linking the search page. That's not an introduction, that's a teaser trailer. If they want this to be a viable search it needs to be available quickly, and anonymously from something quick to type in. Google would have been annoying as shit if you had to go to google.com/search , let alone then log in.

I mean, until there is an alternative in the space that has a (good), free, anonymous ai web search then I think we can probably assume you are confusing what you want with what is "viable"

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by solfox » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:03 PM UTC

xnorswap wrote: post #23

"Introducing" without actually just linking the search page. That's not an introduction, that's a teaser trailer. If they want this to be a viable search it needs to be available quickly, and anonymously from something quick to type in. Google would have been annoying as shit if you had to go to google.com/search , let alone then log in.

It's available today for Plus users at chatgpt.com.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by PittleyDunkin » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:03 PM UTC

findthewords wrote: post #15

rvz wrote: post #2

AKA Bing Search in ChatGPT. So it is not it's own search engine and is still using Bing for its results just like the rest of them.

If it's better than Bing or Google in presenting the relevant result in a condensed way, it's still a win for the users.

> If it's better than Bing or Google in presenting the relevant result in a condensed way

This doesn't matter if the results are user-hostile, as both search engines are.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by TZubiri » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:04 PM UTC

Xcelerate wrote: post #12

How long until advertisements are subtly introduced? I didn’t notice any specific brand of limoncello recommended in their demo.

5 to 10 years

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:04 PM UTC

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Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by SethMLarson » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:04 PM UTC

troymc wrote: post #26

SethMLarson wrote: post #10

Hah, OpenAI is becoming an ads business too. So much for something new, same old funding model for every centralized platform on the web.

OpenAI has ads? I thought it was mostly a freemium business model.

I'm saying that by moving towards explicit "search" and "linking to sources" they have set the stage for being able to charge to be recommended by their search features (ie, ads and pay-to-rank, same as Google search).

There aren't any ads in their demo, we haven't seen the real deal yet, but I'll be watching HN for that day.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by alanfranz » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:04 PM UTC

typon wrote: post #14

Asked it to generate code for a library that was released in the past year - GPT-4 couldn't do it and this one just did it flawlessly. I am super impressed.

Hello bot. This is a search functionality not a new model.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:04 PM UTC

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Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by soheil » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:05 PM UTC

keiferski wrote: post #13

nextworddev wrote: post #5

I have turned bearish on Perplexity recently, this confirms it

Perplexity is a really terrible name for a product and that alone will hold it back from being a real competitor.

Agreed, it's as if someone completely ignored the meaning of the word and just decided what sounds good for an AI app.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by awb » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:05 PM UTC

LLMs have the chance to cannibalize the web and become the primary interface for knowledge. But if websites remain the final destination, it’s good for content creators.

The only other way to kill the web without killing LLMs in the process would be to create a way for people to upload structured public content directly into an LLM’s training. That would delay public content into release batches unless training can be sped up significantly.