make windows here before doing ssh?
SSH Remoting
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#112I cant wait to switch to something like Zed. VS Code can take up half of my memory and keeps crashing after updates. How much language support is there for Go?
It has built-in support for Go: https://zed.dev/docs/languages/go
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#113with a little bit of work, vi/emacs works great as an IDE for most setups... The learning curve is steep but once you get the gist, you never go back to those bloated IDEs. (Disclaimer: I haven't tried zed, but have been working throughout my career with Eclipse, Visual C/C++/Basic (!), Atom)
> The learning curve is steep
So it's not "a little bit of work"
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#114Can someone explain. What is the catch ? Zed is worked on by paid employees. So who is the product, how is the money made and is it open source and if so, how much ? (Vscode has strings attached too) Just interested since building my workflows around a company's products usually ends in tears (figuratively).
> Vscode has strings attached too If software being FLOSS is in any way an important value of yours, the difference between Zed and Visual Studio Code is night and day: Zed's GPL: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/blob/main/LICENSE-GPL MS Visual Studio Code's license: https://code.visualstudio.com/license I believe this alone shows much more good will towards developers and much less strings attached.
https://zed.dev/terms has the Zed Editor use license. That’s different from the Zed source code license.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Vscode has strings attached too If software being FLOSS is in any way an important value of yours, the difference between Zed and Visual Studio Code is night and day: Zed's GPL: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/blob/main/LICENSE-GPL MS Visual Studio Code's license: https://code.visualstudio.com/license I believe this alone shows much more good will towards developers and much less strings attached.
For what it's worth; Visual Studio Code and VSCode are not the same. VSCode is MIT licensed: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt From vscodium.com: Microsoft’s vscode source code is open source (MIT-licensed), but the product available for download (Visual Studio Code) is licensed under this not-FLOSS license and contains telemetry/tracking. According to this comment from a Visual Studio Code ma…
What I find unfortunate is that VSCode and Visual Studio Code are so conflated. It's Visual Studio Code in the context of features, it's vscode in the context of license and community.
In this sense Zed is much cleaner as to what's up for for monetization. You look at the project and you know which parts will be candidates for business growth and which parts will stay in the community. With Visual Studio Code, the entire editor is game for monetization and utilization for Microsofts business goals, yet has the appearance of open source and community owned.
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#116Glad to see this. It's probably one of the biggest features in vs code that I find indispensable along with the integrated terminal.
Will give Zed a try now.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
? The remote server (reh) is part of the vscode repo itself https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/tree/main/src/vs/server/... there is a vscodium and codeoss builds of it too (reh builds). The extension that invokes it isn’t, but there are a few implementations of it that are, and I think vscodium bundles one with their build. It’s just some shell scripts that download the reh build and run it with the correct args.
Hmm, are the docs outdated then or are they talking about something else? > The Visual Studio Code Remote Development extensions and their related components use an open planning, issue, and feature request process, but are not currently open source. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/faq#_why-arent-the...
That’s the extension which launches the server. The server itself, which is what runs on the remote machine, is part of the vscode repo itself. You can see this open source extension for an example of what the extension does as well as an explanation of what it does https://github.com/xaberus/vscode-remote-oss
Mainly just sets up the UI/connect commands in vscode UI and launched REH (the vscode server) on the remote machine. The actual server is just a different binary you build from the same repo. Non-Microsoft OSS builds of vscode work with SSH fine.
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#118Can someone explain. What is the catch ? Zed is worked on by paid employees. So who is the product, how is the money made and is it open source and if so, how much ? (Vscode has strings attached too) Just interested since building my workflows around a company's products usually ends in tears (figuratively).
You are the product. The editor is free afaik, and is very good. It has a plugin system and many languages have been added. It's really, really close to be my replacement to intelliJ. Sadly many bugs are stopping that for now. They'll charge for integrations later, collaboration etc. I'm not sure exactly where the money is going to come from but I value a quality native IDE. I hope they don't stuff crap down our mout…
> You are the product.
As far as I can tell from the Zed FAQs and license, this is false.
Can you provide information to support this assertion?
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ll have to give it a look. I’m an increasingly disenchanted IntelliJ customer also.
I assume they did the same as with Rider, and made the UI objectively worse, rather than solve a million other things that actually need improvement (performance!)?
10 years ago, Intellij, 1 IDE to rule them all they said. There are 14-15 at my last count. Complete cash job.
Bugs I reported went unanswered for 3 years and then swept under the carpet, still not fixed. Obvious stuff too. Breaking and annoying stuff.
The best part was when they came out and claimed they had the best latency to screen rendering, long article explaining the technology etc. behind it. Mac just came out with retina screen, and their stuff is written in Java, did not handle any kind of graphics acceleration. It was a complete joke, just pressing 'aaaaaaaaaaa' on the keyboard would start lagging after 10 characters to seconds long to render. Insanely funny stuff. If you shrank the IDE to 1/4 of the screen it was much faster! yay.
I stopped paying a little while back and jumped on the community edition for debugging and other IDEs to write the code. I'm sick of their antics.
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#120Can someone explain. What is the catch ? Zed is worked on by paid employees. So who is the product, how is the money made and is it open source and if so, how much ? (Vscode has strings attached too) Just interested since building my workflows around a company's products usually ends in tears (figuratively).
This is answered in their FAQ: https://zed.dev/faq : We envision Zed as a free-to-use editor, supplemented by subscription-based, optional network features, such as: Channels and calls Chat Channel notes We plan to offer our collaboration features to open source teams, free of charge.
That’s the thing. Whatever editor I finally migrate from neovim to I’ll likely donate to.
I get so much insane value from open source and companies building for the platforms that I use that I’m happy to pay for them especially for small shops of really passionate hackers like the folks behind Zed.