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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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It would appear the air intake is on the bottom like the Mac Studio.

As someone who lives in a very dusty 150 year old house, My Mac Studio does not appreciate the air input being directly on the desk. It collects all the dust that lands anywhere near it.

I have a large levoit air filter running 24/7 in my office and still end up with this[1] regularly. I wish I could at least reasonably take the thing apart to clean it out.

1. https://imgur.com/a/GSubONa

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

#123

I've been pondering giving up on Macs for a while and this blind and rather stupid deferral to "AI" is going to accelerate the process. Almost nobody asked for this. I personally would have wanted one program to not stop starting with a cryptic message after upgrading to macOS 15.1 earlier today. But hey, crazies like me who want a decently working software are apparently not welcome in the customer base. The only re…

> Apple is now in decline

I've been saying this since the butterfly-keyboard fiasco. At that point it was clear that professional users weren't the focus anymore, and I promptly left the ecosystem. I still have a iPhone (12 mini) that I only keep because it still works, but every time CarPlay tries to murder me in traffic, I get one step closer to just yeeting that phone into the sea.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

#124

Apart from the huge price jump from M4 to M4 Pro, I really like this product line-up. Last time I bought a Mac Mini was before the 2018 model got introduced, and I almost took it back in to get it exchanged (I was within 30 days of purchase when the 2018 model dropped), but it's been plugging away doing everything I have asked of it for 6 years, and it's still going strong. All the upgrades since have left me a littl…

M4 MacBook Air is rumored for the spring. Last announcement tomorrow is rumored to be the MacBook Pros.

Seems weird to stagger it like that, unless they have a huge amount of M3 Air stock they're hoping to shift over the holidays.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

#125
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a desktop computer it's not as bothersome to have an NVME plugged in to one of the thunderbolt ports.

Thunderbolt is significantly slower than gen 4 NVME. In the PC world, gen 3 speeds are considered an extreme budget-tier option these days.

This is the Mac Mini, their budget desktop. It's not the one targeted at people who would consider Thunderbolt a limiting factor.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

#126
post #8

16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

I have a feeling this could simply be an outcome of samsung not offering anything smaller.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

#127
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not apply to memory. It’s much harder to maintain signal integrity. 200+ 4GHz signals.

If a CPU is socket-able, so should memory chips be.

-> It won’t ever be able run as fast as a soldered system.

Yeah, just take a look at PCIe 5 and it's 512GB/s of bandwidth.

-> Have you installed a server CPU?

Yeah, and none of the problems you mentioned.

-> That’s not an experience Apple wants any user of their products to have.

Yeah, just look at the older macs with upgradable components and the easyness you had replacing them... So, instead of making it easier, let's just remove it altogether.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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post #8

16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

No mention of the SSD size that was the reason I returned my Mac mini 256Gb last year was just a pain juggling files

Couldn't we just add extra drives into the extra internal SSD slots? Or does Mac Mini not have those?

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

#129
Positives:

+ form factor

+ ARM/Apple silicon/SoC

Negatives:

- Apple tax on memory, storage

- non-upgradeable

- Apple tax on 1GbE to 10 GbE ($100 surcharge lol)

- maxes out at 64G of configurable memory w/ m4 pro

Got to give it to Apple. The traunches between different configuration levels is “small” enough to convince buyers to enter the next level.

It’s like “hey, you are already at $4000 for m4 pro with 64g. Just spend an extra $400-$600 for that bump in storage. It’s no biggy. We losing money at this point”.

I wonder how many consumers fall into this sunk cost fallacy scenario that Apple has designed.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

#130
post #8

16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

I have a feeling this could simply be an outcome of samsung not offering anything smaller.

The M4 iPad Pro still starts at 8GB though, so Samsung is supplying them with lower capacity modules.
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