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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by unpopularopp »

>Delivers up to 13.3x faster gaming performance in World of Warcraft: The War Within

This is such an Apple stat especially for a game. What does "faster gaming performance" even mean? Every zone and city hub loads 13.3x faster so loading screens are quicker? They don't say anything about FPS and no one would use "faster" as a synonym for higher FPS.

An MMO is really not the best benchmark tbh

Edit: notes has the compared spec "Results are compared to previous-generation 3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7-based Mac mini systems with Intel Iris UHD Graphics 630, 64GB of RAM, and 2TB SSD."

So they compared the 2024 M4 to a 2018 8th gen Intel i7 (i7-8700B). Take that as you will

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by allenu »

chronogram wrote: post #67
allenu wrote: post #25

Putting the audio jack on the front is a strange design choice to me if you plan on hooking it up to wired speakers all the time. Did they run out of space to keep it in the back?

At the front is ideal for most usecases: headphones. Monitors with speakers, televisions, receivers, all use HDMI.

Yeah, good point about the HDMI carrying the audio from the back already. I think I’m out of touch since I use an old receiver that doesn’t have HDMI. It’s funny that this is the one place Apple considered the convenience to its wired headphone users.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by smileybarry »

npsomaratna wrote: post #50
leetharris wrote: post #24

Love to see that it still starts at $599. My M2 Mac Mini that I got for $499 is my favorite gaming computer I've had in a long time. Runs many games like WoW, Dota, League of Legends, etc great. Anything that it doesn't run due to MacOS I use GeForce Now over ethernet. And this was with 8gb unified memory, now with 16gb it'll be even better value. Very excited to see how the GPU has improved in the M4, especially the…

Are these games available on OSX? Or are you somehow booting Windows? (Apologies if this seems like a stupid question. I've not played games for a very long time, mainly because most stuff doesn't seem to be available on Macs).

Yes — World of Warcraft, League of Legends and DotA 2 all have native macOS ports. WoW got an Apple Silicon port relatively recently IIRC (last expansion).

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by duxup »

With such small footprints for these things now. I wish they were a little more creative with case design.

The mini seems like the perfect thing to have a mini version and a ... creative design, bring back the trash can!

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by wpwpwpw »

buildbot wrote: post #72
wpwpwpw wrote: post #18

As usual, no upgradability. There's evidence that it's possible with SSDs with no loss of performance. Probably the same would apply to memory, maybe with replaceable memory chips and a simple switch. More future landfill material.

It does not apply to memory. It’s much harder to maintain signal integrity. 200+ 4GHz signals.

If a CPU is socket-able, so should memory chips be.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by llm_nerd »

wpwpwpw wrote: post #18

As usual, no upgradability. There's evidence that it's possible with SSDs with no loss of performance. Probably the same would apply to memory, maybe with replaceable memory chips and a simple switch. More future landfill material.

>More future landfill material.

I wish Apple devices were more upgradable (and cheaper and more fixable), but I would speculate that Apple devices are the last devices to end up in a landfill (or more aptly, recycled). If you outgrow a device there is a very robust resale market and that machine will happily fill someone else's needs.

Apple devices seem to stay in use for an eternity.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by syndicatedjelly »

mentos wrote: post #20
jsheard wrote: post #8

16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

No mention of the SSD size that was the reason I returned my Mac mini 256Gb last year was just a pain juggling files

You might be interested in this then - https://satechi.net/collections/ssd-enclosures

Upgrade your memory and connect it externally over USB-C. It works brilliantly

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by tootie »

jsheard wrote: post #22
fckgw wrote: post #17

Having a fully fledged computer this small without an external power brick is pretty impressive.

Not making it VESA mountable is a missed opportunity, but I suppose they want you to buy an iMac instead of doing that.

A box that small can be mounted with double-sided tape or velcro.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by wongarsu »

jumperabg wrote: post #66

Can those live in a data center rack?

People made rack mount kits for the previous generations. Not sure if the dimensions changed, if they did I'm sure products will be updated and you will be able to 3d print your own or buy a professional version from Amazon shortly

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by svantana »

geewee wrote: post #62

Does anyone have any idea if we can expect a MacBook Pro with M4 release announcement this week as well?

Pretty much guaranteed. They explicitly said there would be 3 announcements, and the remaining one is almost surely MBPs.

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/28/apple-promises-two-more...

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