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Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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If they get insufficient tips to meet the minimum, the employer makes up the difference. Nobody makes $2/hour.

Right. Are waiters in other countries listed above making less than US federal minimum wage?

Do costumers in Washington, California, New York etc. tip less, the same or even more than in those other states?

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

Tipping for a convenience item at the till really really sucks. Am I the only one sane on this? Best regards Norway

I am also Norwegian and I also dislike tipping culture, but when they have your daily ice tea ready for you before you come in I would say it would be strange to not say "ah, just keep the change" now and then to show that you appreciate (and essentially pay for) the extra service.

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Yes it's weird. It's basically charity re-framed as capitalism. As if it's the waiter's performance which determines their tip as opposed to just blind luck. If each waiter could provide their own menu on which they could set their own prices individually and take their own hidden cut, then that would be fair capitalism. They'd make a lot more money because consumers would be too lazy or too embarrassed to ask a diff…

Seems a bit more like price segmentation. Basically everyone is socially forced to pay as much as they can regardless of the actual price.

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…

My grandma already said: "With the rich, one learns to save." The greedy rich man is so common, its not even a prejudice anymore :-)

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Bill Gates: can jump over an office chair - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxaCOHT0pmI Steve Ballmer: developers developers developers developers developers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs Two of my favorite videos haha

That chair jump is actually kinda impressive...

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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It’s funny how all the comments here are falling in the trap described in the beginning of the article of disliking Ballmer because he comes from the sales side and they can’t fathom someone not coming from the tech side leading a tech company. What’s undeniable in the article is that Ballmer literally built what remains Microsoft best asset even before being a CEO there: it’s incredibly good relationship with its co…

Yeah so you're basically saying Microsoft is a perfect company for sales focussed companies that need some technical stack.

Fair enough

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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There's a difference between being frugal and being an asshole. If you have enough money that tips are a rounding error for you -- not tipping just makes you an asshole.

It's none of your business to ever tip anywhere UNLESS you explicitly want to thank somebody for their service. How hard is that to understand? It is the workplace's responsibility to pay their staff adequately. NOT YOURS. 0% tip all the way everywhere. No matter if I have $10 or $10k on the bill.

There are lots of instances in which it is in fact your responsibility to pay the staff and if you choose to ignore that fact and stiff them that's on you

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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Well since Nadella I have been using less Microsoft products and probably won’t be using Windows anymore once my Windows 10 LTSC stops working. I keep hearing praise for Nadella but all he is doing is alienating a lot of customers with his terrible decisions.

Ballmer would never have put honest-to-God advertisements in Windows Solitaire .

Let alone ads in the start menu!

Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

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This article doesn’t understand what was fundamentally wrong with Ballmer’s leadership and what Nadella actually changed. The specific technologies that were successful is irrelevant. Microsoft has and continues to invest in nearly every computer related technology that may come around the corner or they got late on. The problem with Microsoft was everything went through Windows. The entire company was designed to pr…

Except Steven Sinofsky, longtime head of the Windows division and one of the internal forces preventing Microsoft from going in alternate directions, was pushed out under Ballmer's tenure, not Nadella's. Granted, Ballmer made the mistake of putting Terry Myerson, who headed up the failed Windows Phone effort, in charge of Windows but that's another story.

Windows phone was damn good and was growing in popularity when Nadella came in and killed it. When you are #3 in a market, you need persistence to win. One cannot expect immediate, massive profits in a saturated market. Yet, Windows phone by itself was a growth multiplier for Windows which Nadella annihilated in order to turn Microsoft into a cloud & ad services company.
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