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How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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I don't play computer games anymore. Factorio was the last game I played. I lost a weekend and ended up with a raging headache. Before that an MMORPG did the same A year before that it was Civilization IV, exactly the same, lost an entire weekend then never played it again. I don't think I am suited to games. Or maybe I just need more free time

Instead of binging a game over an entire weekend and burning yourself out.. slow down, just play for an hour a week. Treat it like a weekly TV episode of a currently airing show. I follow a couple television series weekly and don't fret myself for wasted time because I only spend 2 hours a week watching them.

Life is all about experiences. I am sad for those who go through life without experiencing video games in moderation. They provide one of a kind interactive experiences that you won't find anywhere else in life.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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I don't play computer games anymore. Factorio was the last game I played. I lost a weekend and ended up with a raging headache. Before that an MMORPG did the same A year before that it was Civilization IV, exactly the same, lost an entire weekend then never played it again. I don't think I am suited to games. Or maybe I just need more free time

Instead of binging a game over an entire weekend and burning yourself out.. slow down, just play for an hour a week. Treat it like a weekly TV episode of a currently airing show. I follow a couple television series weekly and don't fret myself for wasted time because I only spend 2 hours a week watching them. Life is all about experiences. I am sad for those who go through life without experiencing video games in mod…

> slow down, just play for an hour a week.

Some games really reward spending more time with them, and getting into the "flow". I think playing Factorio for an hour and then stopping would just feel frustrating - like cooking up a delicious meal, eating a spoonful, and running out the door.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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I know lots of people who play Factorio but for me, I guess it just feels too much like work? Whenever I play it, I get the distinct feeling that I could instead do the same thing but productively instead, such as by contributing to my OSS projects (sometimes, maybe even for profit instead). I never got into these types of programmatic games for precisely this reason but I'd like to understand other perspectives on t…

That sums up how I feel about it. I can see the appeal, but for that kind of mental effort I rather just keep coding.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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I won't go so far as to say I'm disgusted by what others do, but I am increasingly resenting having to use my phone for myriad tasks that shouldn't require a phone in the first place. Like unlocking my apartment door. It's obviously so that someone can get a recurring cut where they would have once provided a one-time semi-permanent solution (like a key, or a notepad). I mean, maybe some of this will be blunted over…

My apartment recently moved over to “smart locks” and I immediately noped out (app is slow), choosing to memorize the codes instead. This was clearly an afterthought since about 40% of the time touches are missed when using the keypads. Why anyone wanted to unlock their door with their phone instead of tapping a fob, I’m not sure, but the only interesting feature (temp access for friends) doesn’t seem worth it.

"Why anyone wanted to unlock their door with their phone instead of tapping a fob, "

I would want to do it with my phone because then I only have to have one thing to carry around with me. I haven't carried a key ring in years. I don't even carry a wallet these days. It's really quite useful. Way fewer trips back to fetch the keys/wallet, etc.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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Is there a better graphics version of factorio? And no I don't mean Satisfactory or Dyson Sphere Program though those are good games in their own rights, I mean something with the same level of depth and camera as factorio.

The trees move in the wind when you zoom in. Factorio takes sprite graphics to the next level! I felt the same as you, I've always wanted a brighter reskin of Factorio but I've realized it's way tooooo much work for anyone to do for free...

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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> You don’t need to make software for mass appeal. Some people, like myself, enjoy writing code but need a purpose to write code. If I don’t have a reason, or problem to solve, I can’t just sit down and start coding.

Useful does not mean mass appeal. The software I got paid the most to write is used by a handful of people on a manufacturing site and 99.9999999999% of the public will never see it. It solved a problem they had and I’m proud of it but yea it’s incredibly niche and useful to a very select few people.

I don’t disagree and, to be honest, that kind of work is something I really enjoy.

I’m mostly, personally, talking about building toy apps or hacking my microwave to play Doom. Not throwing shade at those who do, it’s just not what motivates me.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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I know lots of people who play Factorio but for me, I guess it just feels too much like work? Whenever I play it, I get the distinct feeling that I could instead do the same thing but productively instead, such as by contributing to my OSS projects (sometimes, maybe even for profit instead). I never got into these types of programmatic games for precisely this reason but I'd like to understand other perspectives on t…

Not just you, I had the same experience with Factorio. Other building games like Minecraft I could play for days, but Factorio stresses me out. I want to chill and make cool stuff, optimizing a factory while fending off aliens wasn’t relaxing.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

#338

I know lots of people who play Factorio but for me, I guess it just feels too much like work? Whenever I play it, I get the distinct feeling that I could instead do the same thing but productively instead, such as by contributing to my OSS projects (sometimes, maybe even for profit instead). I never got into these types of programmatic games for precisely this reason but I'd like to understand other perspectives on t…

Haha. Yeah, I’m working on logic puzzles all day for work. The games I play to relax are either shoot-everything games or, like, MarioKart. I need to chill and not think.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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I feel exactly the same. I don't think the problems you solve in factorio are that complex, they are just tedious. It feels like calculations that a calculator can do. It is utterly boring to me personally, I can simply write a program or come up with a formula once I know what I need to make to calculate how much of everything I need. I also like to play simpler games which stimulates more of a lower part of my brai…

I’m inclined to agree. I also don’t get people who look up YouTube videos on how to do things in Factorio. What’s the fun part left to do if you just use someone else’s factory or belt design?

I think a lot about this in the context of video game minmaxers/netdeckers who just copy a researched, optimal behaviour. It's completely alien to me but some people really get a kick out of just being an implementer, following rote instructions exactly to the letter.

Re: How 'Factorio' seduced Silicon Valley and me

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I know lots of people who play Factorio but for me, I guess it just feels too much like work? Whenever I play it, I get the distinct feeling that I could instead do the same thing but productively instead, such as by contributing to my OSS projects (sometimes, maybe even for profit instead). I never got into these types of programmatic games for precisely this reason but I'd like to understand other perspectives on t…

That's the feeling I get when I see day traders on Eve Online.
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