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Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Do you think people should face consequences for piracy? If not, should DRM be legal then?

Piracy was just as Federally illegal prior to the DMCA. Think back to Streetfighter....

It’s a simple question. I know it’s illegal. Should regular people face consequences or not? The status quo is “no,” which is the first step to understanding why making consequences for circumventing DRM is a bitter compromise that is maybe the best option.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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It's still weird to me that we ended up in a world in which every bit of information can now be copied at zero cost and instead of heralding and building upon that technological achievement we've somehow decided that instead we're going to make laws to protect and enforce rent seeking instead. I assume it's one of those things where a few corpos just outplayed 99% of the population; just like universal health care, o…

I assume it's one of those things where a few corpos just outplayed 99% of the population "The key element of social control is the strategy of distraction that is to divert public attention from important issues and changes decided by political and economic elites" -Chomsky

Everyone believe they need copyright, therefore it is the status quo.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Been a while since I first watched the video. I would imagine the ice cream machines are a relatively small part of the McDonald's business. As evidenced by the fact that McDonalds ice cream has been an issue for quite a while. I would imagine franchises of a similar caliber to McD's also exploit their owner-operators on a similar scale because they can, we just don't necessarily hear about it because McDonalds is th…

The days of cheap McDonald’s is long gone. I can get a meal served at a sit down cafe for about the same price now days.

But it’s still just as poor quality, if not worse than before. Last time I ate there I bit down on something in my burger so hard I thought I broke a tooth. I’ll never eat it again.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been a while since I first watched the video. I would imagine the ice cream machines are a relatively small part of the McDonald's business. As evidenced by the fact that McDonalds ice cream has been an issue for quite a while. I would imagine franchises of a similar caliber to McD's also exploit their owner-operators on a similar scale because they can, we just don't necessarily hear about it because McDonalds is th…

The days of cheap McDonald’s is long gone. I can get a meal served at a sit down cafe for about the same price now days.

McDonald’s pricing is complicated. You can still get cheap McDonald’s, but it requires giving them something in return (e.g. information about you).

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Here's a great YT video on why McDonald's ice cream machines are always broken: https://youtu.be/SrDEtSlqJC4 TL;DW: there are some perverse incentives to keep them broken. Basically the owner operators are forced to use a particular brand by corporate. Corporate McDonalds has a deal with a particular ice cream machine company. That particular company is the only company owner operators are allowed to buy from, and th…

Most importantly, McDonalds has a strong incentive to avoid headlines like "37 people hospitalized after shit-bacteria in improperly maintained ice cream machine", which is why the machines self-monitor and shut down at the slightest excursion from some specified norm. And McD wants the machines maintained by the official technician, because they'd rather screw their franchisees a bit than risk someone ripping out th…

then why is it that its only the ice cream machines that have problems not not things like the soda fountain any other food production tool?

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Certified by a Taylor-accredited organization. The money all goes the same way. A distinction without a difference.

Taylor doesn't get paid for the vast majority of repairs. The money goes to the independent technician. They make some money for replacement parts, but that's rarely more than the occasional o-ring.

> It's also all about Taylor's exclusivity on repairing the machines.

In context, it doesn’t matter whether Taylor is getting paid or Santa Claus is. The problem is that McDonald’s franchises were not able to fix them due to software locks.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

#78

I wish we would just repeal the DMCA. Under no circumstances should we need an exemption from the copyright office just to be able to repair an ice cream machine. It's not even a permanent exemption! The DMCA causes many weird problems.

It's still weird to me that we ended up in a world in which every bit of information can now be copied at zero cost and instead of heralding and building upon that technological achievement we've somehow decided that instead we're going to make laws to protect and enforce rent seeking instead. I assume it's one of those things where a few corpos just outplayed 99% of the population; just like universal health care, o…

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Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Bad headline. No, they can't. They are now allowed to, but they don't have the actual ability to do so.

Clickbait of the weirdest kind - the totally unnecessary one. They could have gone with more truthful "We're now allowed to" with the same amount of impact... right?

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy was just as Federally illegal prior to the DMCA. Think back to Streetfighter....

It’s a simple question. I know it’s illegal. Should regular people face consequences or not? The status quo is “no,” which is the first step to understanding why making consequences for circumventing DRM is a bitter compromise that is maybe the best option.

I'm not sure I follow. In the case where breaking DRM isn't illegal, but piracy still is illegal, what happens that you think is bad?
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