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Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report
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So you're dismissing Ukrainian soldiers, who have no choice but to defend themselves, their country, and their families from genocide?
No I was comparing the deliberate targeting of civilians.
Would you consider medical facilities civilian targets? Hospitals, Maternities?
Because Russia has struck more than 1.500 medical facilities, including a Maternity and a Children's Hospital.
By the way, this is also a common tactic, which was recurrently used in Chechnya.
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> Israel is a satellite state of the US in all but name. The US is more reflexively pro-Israel than Israel is pro-US in international policy, the opposite of what you’d expect if Israel was a US vassal. > What ive always wondered is why the US hasn't put Israel on the security council There are lots of reasons, but one that renders all the others secondary is that the US can’t add permanent Security Council members .…
Yet Russia, a country the leader of which is wanted for war crimes - is on the permanent Security Council. The whole organization needs to be uprooted and rebuilt. It's become a farce.
the permanent seats on the security counsel are the winners of WW2.
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There's a mechanism for bypassing the Security Council by the GA during deadlocks caused by vetoes (Emergency Special Sessions convened under Uniting for Peace—5 of the 11 convened so far have concerned the Arab/Israeli conflict, including one of the two that is currently open, which is now on its 27th year), but no combination of countries otherwise willing to act to constrain the conflict has the capacity to effect…
There is no enforcement power for outcomes of those.
There is the same enforcement power as there is for Security Council resolutions, the coordinated action of member states.
UNEF, the first UN peacekeeping mission, was deployed under a GA resolution passed under Uniting for Peace in an Emergency Special Session called due to British and French vetoes creating a deadlock over the Suez Crisis.
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> As long as Hamas exists in a functioning form there can be no peace. I think the big problem with this approach is that actions taken now, which lead to deaths, lead to the friends & family of said people becoming more radicalised and thus to more terror attacks/wars in the future. I read recently in the FT that 60% of current Hamas fighters have lost family to previous conflicts, suggesting that this isn't going t…
I used to be of that mindset and no longer am. Hamas killed more people in a single day than the IRA killed in its entire existence. The Irish conflict which is more similar to the conflict Israel has in the west bank, is mostly a territorial conflict.
If it were true that violence breeds violence then Jews would have blown up post war Germany with suicide vests. It was still filled with Nazis and their collaborators.
Hamas is a different story, there's no amount of negotiations or compromise that will placate a fanatic. They will probably keep doing these things forever just like Isis didn't fully go away. But once the leadership got cut down Isis found it much harder to pull off the same level of terror.
I agree that this needs to be a dual motion. Young frustrated people are kindle for these organizations and this won't work without a peace process that would give hope to the people. That's why I don't have any faith in the current Israeli government. I hope it can be replaced so there would be a parallel process that would help rebuild and pave a way for peace again.
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>And what oil money exactly? He's probably referring to how Iran props up these places, and Iran's main source of funding is oil.
Nope, Iran does not really prop up Palestinians. Maybe Saudi Arabia and their donations sure but Iran does not fund more than military assets, and mostly in Lebanon
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Israel has far more influence in the US than the US does in Israel. It is very clear that the current administration is backed into a corner and trying to make the best of the situation. FWIW: This is not a knock against the current administration.
> It is very clear that the current administration is backed into a corner and trying to make the best of the situation. This does not seem clear at all. What has led you to think so?
A slow and steady drumbeat of stories like these over the years:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/joe-biden-interview-...
https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-822306
It goes on and on. Escalating conflict in the ME, such as with Israel and Lebanon, regardless of who is at fault, is not in the interest of the US. The administration feels attempts to deescalate are falling on deaf ears, but is in a politically precarious situation.
Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report
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> As long as Hamas exists in a functioning form there can be no peace. I think the big problem with this approach is that actions taken now, which lead to deaths, lead to the friends & family of said people becoming more radicalised and thus to more terror attacks/wars in the future. I read recently in the FT that 60% of current Hamas fighters have lost family to previous conflicts, suggesting that this isn't going t…
I used to be of that mindset and no longer am. Hamas killed more people in a single day than the IRA killed in its entire existence. The Irish conflict which is more similar to the conflict Israel has in the west bank, is mostly a territorial conflict. If it were true that violence breeds violence then Jews would have blown up post war Germany with suicide vests. It was still filled with Nazis and their collaborators…
I agree that the Irish conflict is more like the West Bank (but that's super super bad and has been for a long time) and that October 7th was much more destructive than anything in the Troubles.
Like, it's worth noting that the core of the nationalist and unionist terrorists still live in Ireland and engage in a bunch of criminality. These organizations don't disband, they just die off/become politicians.
The big problem with Israel making peace is that it appears a solid majority don't want that, which depresses the hell out of me.
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No I was comparing the deliberate targeting of civilians.
Would you consider medical facilities civilian targets? Hospitals, Maternities? Because Russia has struck more than 1.500 medical facilities, including a Maternity and a Children's Hospital. By the way, this is also a common tactic, which was recurrently used in Chechnya.
I'm comparing the number of people killed. I'm not here defending Russia.
One of these we have 0 control over (Russia). The other one (Israel) we're funding, supporting, aiding, and abetting.