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Law Enforcement Undermines Tor

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Re: Law Enforcement Undermines Tor

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I guess you weren't around for the fun when https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesheep was popular.

I have seen the Wall of Sheep in person when HTTPS everywhere was just getting started, and you would still see wireless networks secured with WEP. This is pre-Snowden.

Re: Law Enforcement Undermines Tor

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Is there something new here? I’m under the impression that we knew this kind of thing was possible with enough resources.

Plenty of people still believe that using a VPN + Tor means they are “private”. What we need to teach others is that this is no longer the case - privacy is not a one size fits all solution. You may be private from other users on your network, but not nation state actors.

VPN/Tor provide something else anyway: anonymity. Privacy is a different thing. You can lead an entirely private life in an environment where everyone knows who you are and who you interact with. They just don't know how you are interacting with those people.

Most people don't need anonymity most of the time...

Re: Law Enforcement Undermines Tor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feel free to debate the statement on its merits, at face value.

Your proposal is too modest. Why should only law enforcement see our messages? All messages should be treated like the banns of marriage and read aloud by the local priest or posted on the church walls, so that all interested parties can learn their contents and raise any relevant legal objection.

In actual fact, your proposal is too modest. Why should only electronic messages be so publicized? After all, relevant communication, either for our protectors in law enforcement (and secret services, don't forget their hard work for our prosperity) or for us members of society, happens via all kinds of mediums.

Privacy of correspondence might have had some relevance in the past, but today, with LLMs helping us work through the huge amount of data, every letter should automatically be scanned and added to a database for further consumption. Every telephone conversation. Actually, we should force phone manufacturers to turn their devices into permanent microphones and record everything they hear, gathered in public databases.

The best results from last week's search can then be read aloud in church or at community meetups.

Re: Law Enforcement Undermines Tor

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you weren't around for the fun when https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesheep was popular.

I have seen the Wall of Sheep in person when HTTPS everywhere was just getting started, and you would still see wireless networks secured with WEP. This is pre-Snowden.

So you're aware of those cases and just going with "yeah, let's ignore those account takeovers, impersonations, data theft, etc. across any service from social media to banking and payment" because just bad people need encryption? Walk me through the process of a non-vile person using banking securely from a cafe/hotel in your scenario.

Re: Law Enforcement Undermines Tor

#29
Split EntryGuard should help, means you connect to multiple of them instead of one, and your data is split between them then it gets to Exit through multiple paths (Middle Nodes) and there it is reconstructed to one data stream. How about that?

Re: Law Enforcement Undermines Tor

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen the Wall of Sheep in person when HTTPS everywhere was just getting started, and you would still see wireless networks secured with WEP. This is pre-Snowden.

So you're aware of those cases and just going with "yeah, let's ignore those account takeovers, impersonations, data theft, etc. across any service from social media to banking and payment" because just bad people need encryption? Walk me through the process of a non-vile person using banking securely from a cafe/hotel in your scenario.

Do you not understand what I am doing?
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