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Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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Anything critical of Israel is usually flagged by users and removed from the front page.

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I find it curious that your only engagement on HackerNews is defending Israel and never engaging on other technical topics.

Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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Maybe. Worth considering that in terms of relative size, Israel has a population of 10 million, Jews in the world number ~14 million. Whereas the Arab world, which tends to be relatively anti-Israel, numbers ~220 million. And Muslims, which tend to be anti-Israel as well, number 1.2 billion . So just in terms of number of voices, the natural pro-Israel voices [1] are vastly outnumbered by the natural anti-Israel voic…

Though global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance. Western media often aligns with Israeli perspectives due to strategic alliances, lobbying influence, and media ownership dynamics, framing Israel’s actions as defensive while sidelining broader Arab or Palestinian views. Online, pro-Israel narratives are reinforced by organized digital campaign…

> Though global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance.

I'm not sure you're right. Isn't this a bit hard to judge without first deciding what is true and what constitutes bias? I'm fairly certain we don't agree with on either of these.

Most Israelis consider things like the BBC and the NYT to be biased against Israel. Are you sure they're wrong?

Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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Unlikely, I sampled the hn users in this discussion. Most are a few years old, and have karma. Hn is not important enough to warrant a multi year psyops, so these are probably actual humans.

That’s not what I was suggesting.

Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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Though global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance. Western media often aligns with Israeli perspectives due to strategic alliances, lobbying influence, and media ownership dynamics, framing Israel’s actions as defensive while sidelining broader Arab or Palestinian views. Online, pro-Israel narratives are reinforced by organized digital campaign…

> Though global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance. I'm not sure you're right. Isn't this a bit hard to judge without first deciding what is true and what constitutes bias ? I'm fairly certain we don't agree with on either of these. Most Israelis consider things like the BBC and the NYT to be biased against Israel. Are you sure they're wrong?

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Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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HN posts about this used to be 99% Pro-Zionist. There’s been a marked shift in opinion (or less bots) and I’m very, very glad that people are recognising the extent of war crimes being committed by Israel.

99% pro Zionist ...can you show me even one example of such a post? I don't think you can.

Here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=weatherlite&next=417...

Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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99% pro Zionist ...can you show me even one example of such a post? I don't think you can.

Anything critical of Israel is usually flagged by users and removed from the front page.

This very post would seem to belie that. In fact, the only times Israel ever rises to the front page is when the article is biased and critical, as is this one.

The only posts labeled "flagged" here are those who are nuanced about Israel at all with the exception of one overtly anti-Semitic post.

Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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Israel never left Gaza. They surrounded it. They controlled the entire land border and didn't let ships sail or planes take off from Gaza. It's as if, after a prison riot, all of the guards just said fuck 'em and decamped to a perimeter around the prison with machine guns with orders to shoot to kill. Gaza is way too small and densely populated to be remotely self-sufficient. Now, just to short-circuit the reply chai…

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> As long as Hamas exists in a functioning form there can be no peace.

I think the big problem with this approach is that actions taken now, which lead to deaths, lead to the friends & family of said people becoming more radicalised and thus to more terror attacks/wars in the future.

I read recently in the FT that 60% of current Hamas fighters have lost family to previous conflicts, suggesting that this isn't going to end.

And more generally, it's basically impossible for conventional armies to defeat guerilla fighters who have the support of the population (c.f. Irish/English conflicts, Iraq, Afghanisation (multiple times) etc).

Like, fundamentally the only way this can end is through either extermination or negotiation. Given the relative power imbalances, it'll be extermination of the Palestinians, which would be terrible (and incredibly depressing given that a lot of Israeli citizens are descended from survivors of the Holocausts and the various pogroms in European history).

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I find it curious that your only engagement on HackerNews is defending Israel and never engaging on other technical topics.

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Is that the same UN that has its secretary-general António Guterres shaking hands with Putin and Lukashenko this week? Let's be honest, UN is one of the most useless organization in the world (and been for a while, look at history of their Africa operations). By now their presense on ground with inability to actually do anything or help anybody is a liability (eg can't stop Hezbollah from launching rockets and using…

They being there has been informative. We know of israel attacking UN bases. We are yet to see Hezbolla militants holding white hats at gunpoint. Or at least hiding in a tunnel under a UN base

> Or at least hiding in a tunnel under a UN base

You should balance your news consumption, because here is a terror tunnel within view of a UNIFIL observation center: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KPLphHpQfA

This nonsense has been going on for years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rpCIMs0Xpo

Re: Israel launched a dozen attacks on UN troops in Lebanon, says leaked report

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There are no Israelis in the cabinet as far as I know. Are you saying that Jewish Americans are secretly agents for Israel?

This is exactly what people are saying when they are referring to 'zionists', everything else is just a red herring. Unfortunately even well intentioned people are ignorant of this.
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