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Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by adra »

jonathanlydall wrote: post #211
eterm wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VS + Resharper is painfully slow. Rider is refreshingly fast.

I recently upgraded my laptop and finally VS with Resharper is blazingly fast. My old laptop was a an 8th gen i7 with SSD and 32GB of RAM. New one is a 13th gen i7 with an NVMe and 64GB of RAM. I suspect the biggest difference is the NVMe. It probably also helps that I’m using Windows 11’s Dev Drive where I’ve enabled all the policies mentioned in their docs to minimise the impact of Windows Defender. And finally, so…

Certainly any poorly configure av scanners will turn even the best computers into a heaping pile of garbage. A lot of people abandoned windows development not because the platforms were bad, but because corporate av policy was always scan everything and the performance became unbelievably slow. Now, it's so extreme, you can't enev get a windows (or shocked, Linux) requisition in so many dev shops.

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Post by 8f2ab37a-ed6c »

klik99 wrote: post #116
terminalbraid wrote: post #3

This is pretty huge all around, especially with Microsoft discontinuing Visual Studio for Mac. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022... I'd also like to note the great integration Rider has with Godot and Unity for game development.

Don't forget Unreal as well - I've used Rider on multiple AAA Unreal titles that include custom engine edits and it is significantly faster than VS at loading massive projects. The integration is great and allows for seeing blueprint classes and references in the C++ project. I say this as a big user of JetBrains - I have had SOME issues with their intellisense dropping some references in Rider when there are a lot o…

+1 for Rider for Unreal. Having it "just work" out of the box is incredible. Happy to be paying for it.

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Post by cageface »

ezst wrote: post #253
mattlondon wrote: post #153

Genuine question with an open mind: why would I use this and not vscode? I know people complain about lag in vscode but I have personally never experienced/noticed any. So with that in mind what does rider give that vscode cannot?

My very personal opinion is that LSPs haven't contributed very much in the area of turning text editors into cohesive and integrated development environments that I enjoy using. One still gets to spend a lot of time and energy fishing for the right extensions, some with overlapping or incompatible scopes and capabilities. And this to be repeated for every project, framework and language. That's very ad-hoc, unsatisfa…

Every time I decide to try a Jetbrains IDE again I give up after a few days. They're always eating insane amounts of RAM and lagging hard while indexing my code again and again and again.

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Post by VMtest »

wokwokwok wrote: post #56
CharlieDigital wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a Rider license for a while but just let it lapse. I've found myself totally satisfied with just VS Code on macOS (it's come a really long way). I'm glad that this move will possibly make .NET more accessible, but I think VSC is in a really good place with C# at the moment and shouldn't be overlooked.

What fan boy nonsense is this? The VSC support for c# is miles behind visual studio. Rider isn’t as good either, but it’s certainly better than VSC. Are you heavily using typescript with a bit of c# or a really tiny code base? This comment is incomprehensible to me. Do you never refactor code? There are a lot of sophisticated things you can’t do with VSC. It’s a great editor; but not for c#. The benefit of using it i…

good engineers choose their own tools

otherwise, they are bad engineers, period

keep your strong opinions to yourself and don't be judgemental

you can, however, criticize their workdone instead of their tools

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Post by shiroiushi »

badsectoracula wrote: post #227
tokinonagare wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> VS for Mac was junk. Better off trashing it and pushing people the VS Code route. Sure but VS Code for C# is trash as well. All those years, both Microsoft products, and this the experience is subpar, especially in comparison to the real Visual Studio.

> both Microsoft products With 200K+ employees, at this point it is better to think of Microsoft as a city and different teams in it as independent companies in that city with employees that sometimes go out for coffee together :-P

I thought this org diagram was supposed to be an accurate portrayal of how different teams in MS relate to each other:

https://i.extremetech.com/imagery/content-types/01b4upAMl7t9...

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Post by 123yawaworht456 »

ThrowawayB7 wrote: post #230
p0w3n3d wrote: post #192

Regarding free non-commercial use in Jetbrains you need to accept that you'll get checked (not specified how, but I guess they will scrape your HDD? Or what? It’s also important to note that if you’re using a non-commercial license, you cannot opt out of the collection of anonymous usage statistics. This is similar to our Early Access Program (where statistics is opt-out) and in compliance with our Privacy Policy

It's the dreaded T-word: telemetry. The same sort of thing people get up in arms about in Windows but JetBrains will get a pass here.

windows is a paid product with heavily-integrated spyware and adware

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Post by Volrath89 »

nightski wrote: post #174
CharlieDigital wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not an all C# project; C# only comprises the backend. All in, the mono-repo is somewhere over 250k SLOC with mixed languages (Vue SFC, TS, Astro, JSX, shell). So when VSC is loaded, it's not only handling C#, but also everything else. Point is that VSC is more than capable of handling production scale, multi-language workspaces even on 2021 hardware with only 16GB of RAM.

It's not that VS Code can't load a large project, that is table stakes. It's that the tools it provides to work with those large code bases are like fisher price versions of the Jetbrains equivalents. If one take their tools seriously, and uses them to the maximum extent possible to increase productivity, reliability, and robustness of code then there is just no comparison between the two. Don't get me wrong, I still…

Rider is great for front end development too!

I have used it for angular and react and have had 0 complaints, it works great and the best is that I do not need to switch IDEs anymore

I haven’t tried cursor because I don’t want to “downgrade” to VS Code anymore.

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Post by int_19h »

einpoklum wrote: post #217
lolinder wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct, though they also lost some who were not willing to relocate.

That's really too bad, and not fair to the Russian developers. More 'collateral damage' from the NATO-Russia conflict.

Many tech companies that had large dev teams in Russia have mostly relocated them. Acronis is another example of a company that was originally entirely Russian that is out of the market completely, and from what I heard, well over 90% of the devs relocated.

It will be very interesting to see the effects of that brain drain long term.

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Post by sakesun »

homebrewer wrote: post #62
nurettin wrote: post #28

Sounds like they got a big present from Microsoft.

No, they're feeling pressure from VSCode (which is primitive in comparison, but good enough for most people). Thus the new theme (which none of the old users asked for) — total clone of VSCode UI, and this announcement. It's the opposite of what you're thinking.

I agree. Definitely pressure from VSCode. I did a number of .NET projects with VSCode. It's indeed very good.
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