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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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GDScript is not good and never will be.

If it wasn't good then first, it wouldn't be shipped with the engine, second, people wouldn't use it to make games.

Honestly, I feel like this is a horrible argument when gamemaker still ships its own trash language too lol

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Rider is an excellent IDE for .NET development. A lot less bloat than Visual Studio 2022. I’ve had a lot of my dev teams switch to it. We offer them both options. If you’re not working in legacy .NET Framework apps then I’d heavily suggest giving Rider a try.

This is exactly the kind of surface-level praise I often hear but what exactly is it? Is it objectively (significantly) more performant? How does the MAUI app development experience compare? Code completion? IIS-integration? Debugging? Look and feel? WPF / XAML designer? File explorer? Git integration? ...

It is definitely more performant in my experience. Occasional hiccups happen as well, but way less than with VS. Please note my experience with VS 22 is a bit dated because I moved to Rider a few versions ago (probably 17.8 or 17.9). Additionally, I haven't really used VS without the ReSharper plugin extensively so that's what I can compare Rider to.

Regarding your points:

> MAUI

No personal experience yet unfortunately on my part

> Code completion

At least on par, basically ReSharper with a few extras. Navigation and refactoring is great and comprehensive.

> IIS

Also no personal experience

> Debugging

Great debugger IMHO. Matches VS, predictive debugging is nice (deemphasizes branches it knows won't run), breakpoint conditions are great (only break on a certain thread, after another breakpoint had been hit, after n hits, ...), shows return values in the watch list automatically, etc.

> Look & feel

Probably personal preference: I prefer its more modern and focused look over VS. If you're into that, its Vim emulation plugin is superb.

> WPF

Not its strong suit. VS is way better here. Rider only has a preview. Annoying: it doesn't use themes for DevExpress-libraries correctly in one project at work.

> file explorer

Pretty much like VS

> Git integration

In my experience nicer than in VS. Exposes git's features more easily than VS. Take it with a grain of salt because I use the CLI mostly anyway.

I hope this helps a bit. But you're probably better off trying it for a while if you can.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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post #280

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Rider is an excellent IDE for .NET development. A lot less bloat than Visual Studio 2022. I’ve had a lot of my dev teams switch to it. We offer them both options. If you’re not working in legacy .NET Framework apps then I’d heavily suggest giving Rider a try.

This is exactly the kind of surface-level praise I often hear but what exactly is it? Is it objectively (significantly) more performant? How does the MAUI app development experience compare? Code completion? IIS-integration? Debugging? Look and feel? WPF / XAML designer? File explorer? Git integration? ...

Rider is a full-fledged, cross-platform C# IDE on par with Visual Studio (full version, not code). I have used a little bit of Rider and other Jetbrains products. It was some time ago, so take it with a grain of salt. On my windows machine Rider felt a bit snappier. Debugging was also great. Pretty much the same as Visual Studio. Code completion, code navigation and refactoring is at least on par if not greater with that in Visual Studio. Git integration is there, file-explorer is there. Haven't used WPF/XAML so don't know about that. Generally speaking if you buy the license for all Jetbrains' products to use WebStorm or other stuff they offer I think it is worth it. Or maybe you would want to develop C# apps on mac or linux then Rider is the go to. Other than that I wouldn't bother buying the license.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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VS for Mac was junk. Better off trashing it and pushing people the VS Code route. I use VS Code daily for .NET development. It's probably 70% of what VS on Windows is, but it works well and I don't need to run a VM for it (if I need some of the in-depth tracing and profiling stuff, I can still fire up the gold standard). VS on Mac was maybe 30%

Actually you should take a look at Rider in that case. It’s about 120% of what VS on Windows is! I use it as my daily IDE for a production .NET back end. You won’t look back I promise.

Can it open VS solution and project files?

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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> both Microsoft products With 200K+ employees, at this point it is better to think of Microsoft as a city and different teams in it as independent companies in that city with employees that sometimes go out for coffee together :-P

> With 200K+ employees, at this point it is better to think of Microsoft as a city and different teams in it as independent companies in that city with employees that sometimes go out for coffee together :-P As a former v dash, it was always amusing to see the proclamations come down from the mountain that basically said something like if you are using version x.y.z or below of so and so dependency you must correct i…

Dealing with random compliance issues is literally 50% of the job for most SWEs at msft. Another 40% is spent fingering a yubikey and closing browser login tabs. Occasionally you can get some real work done on a slow Wednesday afternoon.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Genuine question with an open mind: why would I use this and not vscode? I know people complain about lag in vscode but I have personally never experienced/noticed any. So with that in mind what does rider give that vscode cannot?

If you mean for .NET development, there’s still light years between vscode and this. Whereas .NET extensions for vscode are still in their infancy, Rider has been creating a comprehensive IDE for .NET to rival the full edition of Visual Stdio for years. We are talking full Solution file support, Nuget, majorly advanced refactoring via Resharper, pretty much everything you could wish for. And it runs on a Mac!

It sounds like you haven't used the C# extensions in a while.

VSCode has Solution File and Nuget support with the C# Dev Kit. Refactoring isn't bad either though not as featureful as I remember from Resharper.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Limited commercial use 1 to 3 devs should also be freek as projects this small usually are just starting and aren't profitable yet. Beyond that, yes , it should be sustainable for the team to pay for commercial license.

No. If you have money to pay for developers, you also have money to pay for tools. Especially since software licenses are going to be a tiny fraction of what the developers cost.

What about 1 developer developing something for commercial use ?

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Genuine question with an open mind: why would I use this and not vscode? I know people complain about lag in vscode but I have personally never experienced/noticed any. So with that in mind what does rider give that vscode cannot?

It runs on Linux. That’s enough for me..

So does VSCode though. Are you thinking of Visual Studio?

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Actually you should take a look at Rider in that case. It’s about 120% of what VS on Windows is! I use it as my daily IDE for a production .NET back end. You won’t look back I promise.

Can it open VS solution and project files?

Of course it can, that's the baseline for a VS competitor lol

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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What makes it tailored for .Net and games? Does that mean it's less appropriate for other types of development?

For example, I'm using VS Code to work on a back-end based on Deno, which has a plug-in for VS Code. Would I find Rider a less-hospitable development environment?

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