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What makes a person seem wise?

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Re: What makes a person seem wise?

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I suppose often its better to have conviction than wisdom, since sometimes you need to make a leap into the abyss.

There's value in following people with strong conviction who are decisive in certain situations. Like a battlefield, for example.

On the other hand, delusional cult leaders also have strong conviction but it doesn't pay to drink their kool aid.

Re: What makes a person seem wise?

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IQ + EQ Shocker… Suppose that comment reflects low awareness of the HN community

As a metaphor I'd suggest that (Wis = IQ * EQ) might be more accurate -- it is difficult for someone with low emotional awareness to make up the difference with intelligence alone, just as it is difficult for someone of low intelligence to become wise with nothing but high emotional awareness.

Re: What makes a person seem wise?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SBF was the first that popped into my mind.

SBF doesn't strike me as "highly intelligent" in the least.

I am not the parent, but agree with them that SBF seems high-intelligence, low-wisdom (, and low street-smarts). Why do you think him unintelligent?

Re: What makes a person seem wise?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SBF was the first that popped into my mind.

SBF doesn't strike me as "highly intelligent" in the least.

You may not like it but you need to be pretty smart to pull off what he did. I don't think too many people could do what he did even if they wanted to.

I think the same counts for a certain presidential candidate. A lot of people say he is just dumb but personally I think he has to be pretty intelligent to get to where he is.

Re: What makes a person seem wise?

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My definition of wisdom (after many years of study & consideration): "Getting desirable results most of the time for themselves AND most people around them throughout their lives"

The most important aspect of wisdom to me is "making it work" in many areas, in many situations, for yourself and others - throughout your life.

Re: What makes a person seem wise?

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post #24
post #4

IQ + EQ Shocker… Suppose that comment reflects low awareness of the HN community

As a metaphor I'd suggest that (Wis = IQ * EQ) might be more accurate -- it is difficult for someone with low emotional awareness to make up the difference with intelligence alone, just as it is difficult for someone of low intelligence to become wise with nothing but high emotional awareness.

I like that. It's a good metaphor. But I think you can be wise without being clever (having a high IQ).

In my mind, people mostly ask different kinds of questions when they are looking for wisdom. They want to know how to make their marriage work, or how to have a happy life, not the most efficient way to sort a list. And those questions tend to benefit from both a greater EQ, and extensive life experience.

Of course, there is such a thing as a "wise old engineer", but even there, what people are usually looking for aren't the technical details, but distilled experiential wisdom -- the "how to get started with so many unknowns" or "how do I navigate the treacherous politics of" or "how can I build a career when the things I'm gaining expertise in will be irrelevant in 10 years?" questions.

Re: What makes a person seem wise?

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I don’t think that simply grabbing people from a handful of countries somehow cancels out groupthink from the data, which is more likely to affect perceptions of wisdom. Especially when information on who to trust is constantly pushed by globalist media organizations. Take COVID for example, the WHO was universally portrayed as wise. The world went along with their conclusions but Sweden, South Korea and large parts…

Wisdom here is not something that is specifically outlined in discourse but pointed towards through a constellation of qualities observed by a random set of individuals

a feature of ignorance compounded by exclusive english/outglish. other languages counter insincerity with high effectiveness.
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