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Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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I think it is good that we have a non-Google, non-Apple OS for mobile phones out there though I am guessing that the surveillance state will be in full operation in Harmony OS as well.

The reason Huawei has a distinct non-Google Android flavour poisons the whole endeavour. Huawei is registered on the US Entity List. You can have the surveillance gulag of Google, or the surveillance gulag of the CCP. Pick your poison.

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Try telling that to all those people punished for protesting against Gaza genocide. Not to mention Julian Assange.

Still nothing compared to china. But nice try.

What? Somehow people in the west getting arrested for protesting against genocide, is acceptable/redeemable just because another country is presumably worse??? Do you actually care about freedom/human rights at all or are you just abusing those concepts to feel superior relative to other countries and to play petty tribal us-vs-them politics?

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The reason Huawei has a distinct non-Google Android flavour poisons the whole endeavour. Huawei is registered on the US Entity List. You can have the surveillance gulag of Google, or the surveillance gulag of the CCP. Pick your poison.

I am way too much of a small fry for the CCP to give a single fuck about me. Google, on the other hand, can have a massive influence on my day to day life.

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Try telling that to all those people punished for protesting against Gaza genocide. Not to mention Julian Assange.

Julian Assange was wanted for publishing confidential documents, not speaking out against the government.

Yes, publishing confidential documents that expose government crimes, including war crimes. On the one hand, people argue for things like free speech and human rights, but on the other hand, the same people play petty semantics games to cover up their own society's shortcomings. Are you truly a supporter of free speech and human rights, or are you just anti-$OTHER_GROUP? Behavior like this are actively harmful to the ideals of free speech and human rights.

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It seems like Chinese app developers will want some sort of middle layer that they write to in order to get compatibility. Obviously, a lot of developers currently use cross-platform toolkits, but it's unclear how well the popular ones will support something that is strictly for the Chinese market.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia... Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.

Honestly, I think Fuchsia was fine, there's just no reason to deploy it yet.

Didn't Google deploy it to some of its smart speaker devices a while ago tho?

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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>Unlike previous iterations of HarmonyOS, HarmonyOS NEXT no longer supports Android apps. That's kind of big, HarmonyOS would not be just another Android flavor anymore. > we're sorry to report that Huawei told us it currently has no plans to offer Harmony OS NEXT outside of China That's to be expected. If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin, the apps are not usable.

What would they offer outside China? They still don’t have access to android.

They do sell quite a lot of Android phones in Russia, but those come without Google apps. They have their own app store, Huawei AppGallery, and I see that logo fairly often next to Apple app store and Google Play.

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What would they offer outside China? They still don’t have access to android.

I never remember the clear lines. I think they're bared from US distribution and PlayStore being Google is a no-go. But they're not banned in the EU nor SEA or anywhere outside the US really, and the open source part of android is also probably fair game. It feels like refocusing on the Chinese market only is a business move more than a limitation of what they can do. Perhaps Xiaomi is putting too much market pressur…

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The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.

Another great example of the US shooting itself in the foot. I guess if we get more competition, its better for the consumer.

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Yeah well if you’re in the US you can’t really dodge US spyware, but you can dodge Chinese spyware. Carve out your sovereignty where you can, yknow?

If you're in the US you should be dodging US spyware not Chinese spyware, since you're living under US power and laws.

Why not both? I don’t want china knowing about me any more than I want the US knowing about.

It’s harder to dodge US spying when every other traffic light has network connected cameras on them… and I pay taxes… there’s no dodging it.

It’s much easier to not buy Chinese spyware phones.

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