> Huawei makes divorce from Android official What do I read as a non-native speaker? > Now you can divorce easily using Android phone from Huawei
The spyware in Chinese phones can make divorce easier, yes.
As opposed to US spyware?
Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
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#42Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#43The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.
The article explicitly cites it in the second last paragraph. It was a bit more than political pressure, though: Huawei was added to the entity list and it would be a crime for US companies or citizens to do business with them.
That’s clearly not the case though?
A lot of Huawei gear is still installed and operating, as of today, in US telecom networks.
Even the pentagon is contracting with many companies using Huawei gear.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can really see Huawei’s roots as a telecom vendor here. Their hardware, firmware, and core parts of the software are nearly flawless, at least compared to Apple/Google in 2024, but the moment you need something beyond the shipped product it becomes a hoop jumping exercise. And the documentation is much worse.
Indeed. I don't have much technical expertise in the kernel/OS space, but I wouldn't be surprised if the NEXT OS is better than Linux. On the other hand, their dev experience is akin to opening a router paper manual. There is an opportunity here but I am not sure how it can be unlocked.
> I wouldn't be surprised if the NEXT OS is better than Linux.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's full of shortcuts with privilege escalations or contradicting exceptions.
Not because it's Huawei, but because it's a single company developing BOTH the Operating System and the hardware it is supposed to be deployed in.
When it comes to meeting a production deadline of a product, the pressure to apply a quick workaround is much much higher than the pressure to follow a structured process from whatever platform-team.
Source: I worked in lots of companies which at some point tried to establish various kinds of frameworks, just to be forced to break them again in order to ship on-time...
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
As opposed to US spyware?
Yeah well if you’re in the US you can’t really dodge US spyware, but you can dodge Chinese spyware. Carve out your sovereignty where you can, yknow?
If you're in the US you should be dodging US spyware not Chinese spyware, since you're living under US power and laws.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#46>Unlike previous iterations of HarmonyOS, HarmonyOS NEXT no longer supports Android apps. That's kind of big, HarmonyOS would not be just another Android flavor anymore. > we're sorry to report that Huawei told us it currently has no plans to offer Harmony OS NEXT outside of China That's to be expected. If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin, the apps are not usable.
What would they offer outside China? They still don’t have access to android.
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#47> Huawei makes divorce from Android official What do I read as a non-native speaker? > Now you can divorce easily using Android phone from Huawei
"Divorce" here means "separate entirely". So
> Huawei makes divorce from Android official means "Huawei has officially separated from Android and will no longer be using it in any way".
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#48I would be more interested in a OpenHarmony Desktop version. If it picks up on mainland and Asia in general it would be a proper 3rd desktop OS.
3rd desktop os? There are many more than 2 desktop oss already, am I misunderstanding you?
I guess they mean proper as in significant marketshare.
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#49I wonder the cost to Microsoft if there is a rigorous political effort by the CCP to move all Chinese desktop consumption away from Windows and Office Suite to open source (local) alternatives.
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The spyware in Chinese phones can make divorce easier, yes.
As opposed to US spyware?
No such thing. Instead we have corporate America spyware. And America using court power to access corporate spyware data.
You see this way America never gets spyware status. Neither does America get powerful enough that its backers become afraid of America.