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Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Photoshop is £30 a month. NASDAQ.com reports their net profit to be 40% and elsewhere they're reported to gross $20B revenue. I think they can afford the ML based content generation costs without increasing prices.

They might do it anyway though. I have the "all apps" subscription but it's not actually everything they make any more, all their "Substance 3D" tools are another $50/mo. I can easily see this feature getting most of its functionality locked behind that extra subscription the way Illustrator's new 3d tools just give you a tiny handful of materials without that.

Oh for sure, their implementation is slicks and they're somewhat of a monopolist. The whole "free to educational institutions" really worked well for them and MS.

I don't doubt they will put prices up, just boring they don't need to.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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I find that Adobe is really pulling away from open source software with all this AI stuff. A few years ago it could be argued that GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable could do almost everything that Photoshop, Illustrator, and Lightroom could, albeit with a jankier user interface. But now none of the open source software can compete with AI generative fill, AI denoising, and now AI rotation.

In some way, having followed the open source image generation scene for a while, it feels a little bit like it's opposite? Most of the ai image generation stuff I've seen from adobe feels late to party in terms of what you can do with open source tools. Where they do compete however is with tight integration, and I guess that's what matters the most to users in the end. There are plugins for gimp that let you do imag…

I think your last paragraph sums it up pretty nicely: users need a good UX to get to these tools.

So I would love if GIMP started shipping these awesome plugins by default to pick up the pace!

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

This feels extremely ungenerous to the Big Tech companies. What's wrong with trying out 100 different AI features across your product suite, and then seeing which ones "stick"? You figure out the 10 that users find really valuable, another 10 that will be super-valuable with improvement, and eventually drop the other 80. Especially when if Microsoft tries something and Google doesn't, that suddenly gives Microsoft a…

Force-feeding 100s of different AI features (90% of which are useless at best) to users is what's wrong with the approach.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

#75

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

My company has decided to update its hr page to use AI for reasons unknown. So instead of the old workflow: "visit HR page" → "click link that for whatever reason doesn't give you a permanent link you can bookmark for later" it's now: "visit HR page" → "do AI search for the same link which is suggested as the first option" → "wait 10-60 seconds for it to finally return something" → "click link that for whatever reaso…

Nvidia needs to continue selling chips like crazy, all companies in the US need to do their fair share to contribute!...

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

#76

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

My company has decided to update its hr page to use AI for reasons unknown. So instead of the old workflow: "visit HR page" → "click link that for whatever reason doesn't give you a permanent link you can bookmark for later" it's now: "visit HR page" → "do AI search for the same link which is suggested as the first option" → "wait 10-60 seconds for it to finally return something" → "click link that for whatever reaso…

Somebody's putting "AI expert" on their resume

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My company has decided to update its hr page to use AI for reasons unknown. So instead of the old workflow: "visit HR page" → "click link that for whatever reason doesn't give you a permanent link you can bookmark for later" it's now: "visit HR page" → "do AI search for the same link which is suggested as the first option" → "wait 10-60 seconds for it to finally return something" → "click link that for whatever reaso…

Nvidia needs to continue selling chips like crazy, all companies in the US need to do their fair share to contribute!...

Bubbles require constant maintenance

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

#78

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

I think you're being a bit too generous with Adobe here :-). I shared this before, but it's worth resharing [1]. It covers the experience of a professional artist using Adobe tools. The gist is that once a company has a captive audience with no alternatives, investors come first. Flashy (no pun intended :-p), cool features to impress investors become more important than the everyday user experience—and this feature d…

You can have both!

Cool features that excite users (and that they ultimately end of using), and that get investors excited.

(i.e. Adobe mentioned in the day 1 keynote that Generative Fill, released last year and powered by Adobe Firefly is not one of the top 5 used features in Photoshop).

The features we make, and how we use gen ai is based on a lot of discussions and back and forth with the community (both public and private)

I guess Adobe could make features that look cool, but no one wants to use, but that doesn't seem to really make any sense.

(I work for Adobe)

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

#79

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

My company has decided to update its hr page to use AI for reasons unknown. So instead of the old workflow: "visit HR page" → "click link that for whatever reason doesn't give you a permanent link you can bookmark for later" it's now: "visit HR page" → "do AI search for the same link which is suggested as the first option" → "wait 10-60 seconds for it to finally return something" → "click link that for whatever reaso…

"click link that for whatever reason doesn't give you a permanent link you can bookmark for later"

Sounds like engagement hacking?

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some way, having followed the open source image generation scene for a while, it feels a little bit like it's opposite? Most of the ai image generation stuff I've seen from adobe feels late to party in terms of what you can do with open source tools. Where they do compete however is with tight integration, and I guess that's what matters the most to users in the end. There are plugins for gimp that let you do imag…

I think your last paragraph sums it up pretty nicely: users need a good UX to get to these tools. So I would love if GIMP started shipping these awesome plugins by default to pick up the pace!

GIMP does not fully support non-destructive editing yet.

That, by itself, would be a complete deal breaker for professional work.

There's plenty more deal breakers remaining.

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