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Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by mesh »

jampekka wrote: post #9
achow wrote: post #7

The source (Adobe MAX) 'demoes' full range of incredible scenarios.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfct0aH2COw

Not bad, but what's up with the audience? Is there an Adobe cult or something?

This is Adobe Max, which is a huge event held by Adobe for creators.

This session is "Sneaks" which is held every year, and has a fun, casual atmosphere. i.e. it has a theme, has a celebrity co-host, lots of jokes, food and drink served, etc...

Its basically a bunch of people who are creative, and are having fun nerding out on the tech...

Its a lot of fun.

(I work for Adobe)

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by mesh »

laborcontract wrote: post #22
jampekka wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not bad, but what's up with the audience? Is there an Adobe cult or something?

Regardless of whether these are adobe employees or not, I’d argue that a feature like this warrants such a response. It makes me miss Apple’s old keynote style that they’ve abandoned in favor of the bland, sanitized, over-polished and pre-recorded video keynotes. I’m honestly over so much of the corporate cynicism and Blind-indification that’s turned what was once a necessary precautionary stance to this demonization…

The audience is creative community members who use Adobe tools and are attending max (around 11,000 for this event).

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by emmanueloga_ »

ryandrake wrote: post #10

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

I think you're being a bit too generous with Adobe here :-). I shared this before, but it's worth resharing [1]. It covers the experience of a professional artist using Adobe tools.

The gist is that once a company has a captive audience with no alternatives, investors come first. Flashy (no pun intended :-p), cool features to impress investors become more important than the everyday user experience—and this feature does look super cool!

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1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lthVYUB8JLs

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

ceejayoz wrote: post #37
porphyra wrote: post #33

I find that Adobe is really pulling away from open source software with all this AI stuff. A few years ago it could be argued that GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable could do almost everything that Photoshop, Illustrator, and Lightroom could, albeit with a jankier user interface. But now none of the open source software can compete with AI generative fill, AI denoising, and now AI rotation.

They'll probably be better able to compete once Adobe ups prices to reflect the actual cost of all that processing.

Photoshop is £30 a month. NASDAQ.com reports their net profit to be 40% and elsewhere they're reported to gross $20B revenue.

I think they can afford the ML based content generation costs without increasing prices.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by egypturnash »

alexashka wrote: post #47

People have been using 3D models for 2D graphics for at least a decade. 3D models rotate, by default. This demo shows generating a 3D model from a simple 2D shape. It'll fall flat on its face trying to 3D model anything non-trivial which begs the question - who cares? Also, you'll want to animate the 3D model - which this doesn't do, so you'll soon be back to your usual 3D toolkit anyway.

This is in a wholly 2D program. The input is implied to be one completely flat vector drawing, which Illustrator turns into a 3d model, and renders back into flat vectors at multiple rotations, with no further work on the part of the artist.

(I say "implied" because that's all they're showing in the video presentation, there may be additional setup involved that they're skipping. This is inside Illustrator though, which has a long history of 3d extensions being very awkwardly shoved into a corner of its toolset.)

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by notarealllama »

reaperducer wrote: post #49
renegade-otter wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's a Big Tech problem. Big Tech can come up with moronic ideas and be fine because they have unlimited cash. It's the smaller companies that need to count pennies who decide to flush the money down the AI Boondoggle Toilet. "But Google does it. If we do it, we will be like Google".

"But Google does it. If we do it, we will be like Google". Were you in my meeting about 40 minutes ago? Because that's almost exactly what was said. If the big tech companies wanted to be really evil, they could invent a nonsense tech that doesn't work, then watch as all the small upstart competitors bankrupt themselves to replicate it.

You mean like React, right? Right?

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by MiddleEndian »

ryandrake wrote: post #10

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

My company has decided to update its hr page to use AI for reasons unknown.

So instead of the old workflow:

"visit HR page" → "click link that for whatever reason doesn't give you a permanent link you can bookmark for later"

it's now:

"visit HR page" → "do AI search for the same link which is suggested as the first option" → "wait 10-60 seconds for it to finally return something" → "click link that for whatever reason doesn't give you a permanent link you can bookmark for later"

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by imranq »

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #14

SIGGRAPH from over a decade ago has entered the chat... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oie1ZXWceqM It may not be AI, but this single video blew my mind back in *2013* and I find myself thinking about it often.

This is great -- I'm always amazed how effective classical algorithms are at doing so-called "neural tasks". What's strange is how few SIGGRAPH tech ever makes it out as a consumer product

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

porphyra wrote: post #33

I find that Adobe is really pulling away from open source software with all this AI stuff. A few years ago it could be argued that GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable could do almost everything that Photoshop, Illustrator, and Lightroom could, albeit with a jankier user interface. But now none of the open source software can compete with AI generative fill, AI denoising, and now AI rotation.

> A few years ago it could be argued that GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable

To a Linux user, yes. To a professional, it was always a cruel joke, it was never close, even a few years ago. It's like saying Notepad++ is a functional IDE, or Kdenlive is a functional replacement for DaVinci Resolve.

I cannot stress this enough: Actual professionals do not think GIMP is a viable replacement, in any way, and never have.

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