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Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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When I was younger, I was fascinated by evolution, especially the intricacies of how things just work. This fascination also explains why many people believe in the intelligent design theory. However, witnessing the rapid evolution of AI with just a few hundred GPUs, enough data, and power, I no longer wonder what a billion years of feedback loops and randomness can achieve.

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Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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When I was younger, I was fascinated by evolution, especially the intricacies of how things just work. This fascination also explains why many people believe in the intelligent design theory. However, witnessing the rapid evolution of AI with just a few hundred GPUs, enough data, and power, I no longer wonder what a billion years of feedback loops and randomness can achieve.

The fascination with “intelligent design” is cherry-picking. The is no shortage of “unintelligent design” in the natural world.

Take humans, for example. You can block your trachea and die through the simple act of eating. An intelligent (and omniscient) designer could have avoided that by better designing our overall our overall structure.

Or take the fact or ear bones are modified jaw bones. Or if you believe in intelligent design, ask why our intelligent designer thought it wise to link our jaw to our ears so that it’s hard to hear things when you’re chewing.

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

#73

When I was younger, I was fascinated by evolution, especially the intricacies of how things just work. This fascination also explains why many people believe in the intelligent design theory. However, witnessing the rapid evolution of AI with just a few hundred GPUs, enough data, and power, I no longer wonder what a billion years of feedback loops and randomness can achieve.

As other commenters, it tickles me that this was your takeaway as optimizers mildly altering weights at every training step to a more correct representation is more analogous to intelligent design, where a God guides the evolution of species to develop the features they need.

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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Tangential but for my information, does anyone else find this article's thin font takes noticeably more effort to read? I'm not sure if it's just me (I might need to get a better display that can output more nits in this bright room) since the site owners apparently think it's good

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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post #67

When I was younger, I was fascinated by evolution, especially the intricacies of how things just work. This fascination also explains why many people believe in the intelligent design theory. However, witnessing the rapid evolution of AI with just a few hundred GPUs, enough data, and power, I no longer wonder what a billion years of feedback loops and randomness can achieve.

The key insight for both evolution and contemporary AI is that hill-climbing (either completely random a la evolution, or guided locally like in back-propagation) can work really well, if you have enough dimensions to play with. Hill climbing obviously gets stuck easily in 2 or 3 dimensions. So our intuition ain't reliable.

>Hill climbing obviously gets stuck easily in 2 or 3 dimensions. So our intuition ain't reliable.

Also our intuition about overfitting from lower-dimensional representations seems to be less of an issue at high dimensions.

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adults crawl all the time

Adults never choose to crawl, unless in tight spaces or drunk off their rocker.

Yes we do, e.g. there's a sweet spot when scaling an incline (especially if there's easy handholds, e.g. a grassy incline) where using all fours is much easier and natural than making the same trips on two legs, even though you'd be perfectly capable of doing that too (i.e. I'm not talking about proper wall climbing).

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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This article doesn't even try to address what I feel is the deeper and more interesting question (but probably one that can't be answered): Why is it that horses, cows, giraffes and birds have all had to come up with a purely passive solution of "locking" themselves in place, either via their joints (for the four-legged), or via the tendon mechanism described here for birds?

I.e. why wasn't in simpler in evolutionary terms to come up with some mechanism where 1% of the brain was dedicated to the relatively simple task of "station keeping", while the rest of the brain could benefit from sleep?

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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post #77

This article doesn't even try to address what I feel is the deeper and more interesting question (but probably one that can't be answered): Why is it that horses, cows, giraffes and birds have all had to come up with a purely passive solution of "locking" themselves in place, either via their joints (for the four-legged), or via the tendon mechanism described here for birds? I.e. why wasn't in simpler in evolutionary…

Also, why didn't any animal evolve a way to avoid sleep completely?

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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post #77

This article doesn't even try to address what I feel is the deeper and more interesting question (but probably one that can't be answered): Why is it that horses, cows, giraffes and birds have all had to come up with a purely passive solution of "locking" themselves in place, either via their joints (for the four-legged), or via the tendon mechanism described here for birds? I.e. why wasn't in simpler in evolutionary…

Just as we can still breathe and digest food while sleeping!

Re: Why birds do not fall while sleeping

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post #77

This article doesn't even try to address what I feel is the deeper and more interesting question (but probably one that can't be answered): Why is it that horses, cows, giraffes and birds have all had to come up with a purely passive solution of "locking" themselves in place, either via their joints (for the four-legged), or via the tendon mechanism described here for birds? I.e. why wasn't in simpler in evolutionary…

Also, why didn't any animal evolve a way to avoid sleep completely?

I thought that dolphins could avoid having to sleep while travelling long distances by having part of the brain asleep and then switching when tired.

I could just be misremembering things, so I’m not certain.

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