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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by numpad0 »

candiddevmike wrote: post #13
edmundsauto wrote: post #2

I recently took a long flight and brought my Quest device, set to travel mode. It worked great! Pretty much the same experience as this article describes. One protip, I bought a 512G flash drive and loaded it with content. Then I could pop the drive in and play movies off it. I did not want to deal with needing connectivity for DRM or other server checks. Highly recommend that people try this out, the next time you t…

Aside from the Meta integration which will always be a non-starter for me, it would be great if Quest and other headsets followed Apple's design with an external battery pack. I wonder if there are/will ever be "dumb headsets" that are powered/ran by a phone.

I believe XREAL headsets are exactly that. Bulky sunglasses form factor, Pepper's Ghost optical setup, dumb display by itself + 3DoF for comfort with an adapter, takes DP Alt input.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by MPSimmons »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

I don't think it's a 1% problem, but it's a 40% problem:

https://www.airlines.org/new-survey-nearly-90-percent-of-ame...

44% of Americans flew commercially in 2022.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by atestu »

DrillShopper wrote: post #19

I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.

I think that will fade. I don't know if you remember how mocked the airpods were when they first came out ("They look like q-tips"). All it'll take is a few celebrities spotted using one and they'll turn cool in no time.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by tsimionescu »

aaomidi wrote: post #41
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

> Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" problem. Except, they do in a country like the US that has massive distances between cities.

Even in the US, most people (50+% of the population) certainly doesn't regularly (say, more than once a decade) travel by plane.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by malthaus »

woodrowbarlow wrote: post #14

tangent, but: i think reclining your seat in economy class is incredibly selfish. i wish they'd weld them all.

nice stance to have if everyone around you has the same in a full plane.

as soon as one person starts reclininig, you can die on that hill all alone and i'm reclining faster than you can sigh in disappointment

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

MPSimmons wrote: post #52
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

I don't think it's a 1% problem, but it's a 40% problem: https://www.airlines.org/new-survey-nearly-90-percent-of-ame... 44% of Americans flew commercially in 2022.

There's a whole world outside of the USA.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by diggan »

aaomidi wrote: post #41
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

> Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" problem. Except, they do in a country like the US that has massive distances between cities.

I think that's supposed to be

> Except, they do in a country like the US that don't have any other suitable alternatives

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by tesch1 »

latexr wrote: post #33
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. What do you think is going to happen if, as the author predicts, “Apple Vision Pro will be on the face of every frequent flyer”? My prediction is that the experience would get even shittier. Since everyone would be tuned out, there’d be even less reason for the airline to care.

My prediction is that airlines will start offering VR headsets much like they added seatback screens.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by bentcorner »

nordsieck wrote: post #31
latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

Weirdly enough I love being on a plane (and airports). There's something psychologically freeing about them that I feel whenever I fly. I look forward to flying so much. And it's not like I'm flying first class or anything - I fly economy every time.

Maybe if I flew more frequently I'd grow to dislike it (I fly maybe once a year), but honestly airports and flying are my favorite part of a trip (yes, I like them more than any possible destination). TBF I haven't flown to anywhere particularly exciting but I fail to imagine any place matching the pleasure of an airport + flight. After writing this it sounds ridiculous but I'm 100% serious - I can't quite explain why I enjoy it so much.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by keiferski »

latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less.

Agreed 100%. Apologies for linking to my own essay, but I think this can be more generally stated as a difference between "isolated" and "integrated" arts. A device like the Vision Pro (and most tech devices, for that matter) is pushing society further and further into isolated chambers, and thus further incentivizing media and creators to focus on creating isolated aesthetic experiences, not ones that are integrated with the environment.

This is such a baseline unquestioned assumption that we have about the structure of the tech economy, that to think a company like Apple would make a device that brings people together in the real world seems absurd.

I wrote a bit more about this idea here: https://onthearts.com/p/modern-culture-is-too-escapist-part

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