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Reference? Them being eventually autonomous has been covered in the events and his talks about the eventual AI that will drive them.
No reference, this is my personal hypothesis. Tesla still needs to squeeze profit out of all this R&D. Eventually AI eventually could take over, sure. What I see today is they can have humans control the robots for tasks that can easily injure humans.
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After reading the Isaacson biography, it’s clear to me Elon is not a stable or trustworthy person. The evidence continues to mount.
I've also read the biography. It's clear that he's stable and trustworthy enough to run multiple large companies, assemble a loyal force of allies who follow him around to his different ventures, a force that includes multiple family members, and win long term government contracts. The conclusion Isaacson himself reached is that Musk has an extraordinary need for intensity and challenge, to the extent that he becomes…
Just because Musk has financial success does not mean he isn't awful. In fact, financial success is probably one of the worst indicators of being a person of high integrity.
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>mostly functional FSD from the many owners driving Tesla cars these past years Given the staggering amount of mishaps that have been showcased, I would dispute this
Also they still have drivers in the Las Vegas tunnels I think which is something crying out for automation.
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Why would they, though? Aren't those doable just with flat our regular code plus isn't AI slow?
AI is a pretty broad term - its been used for generations to mean something intelligent seeming that isn't human. Certainly, computers running precompiled instructions also falls in that category.
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Waymo vehicles are not driven remotely. Remote assistants give the autonomy stack suggestions for how to proceed rather than drive the vehicle. This doesn't require a low latency connection and the robot is still capable of stopping when the situation changes or proceeding as soon as it's able to without a control handover.
Yes, they are not usually driven remotely, but an operator can take the wheel in an emergency situation. Most of the interventions are "this plan or that one?" decisions from the teleoperators. That still isn't really "autonomous," but it's a lot closer than anything Tesla has done. My question, though, is how frequent the interventions actually are.
Which is probably fine, but it does mean it will never make it to a lot of areas.
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> The tariffs are to protect all US car manufacturers Most of the US car manufacturers would have gone out of business in 2008 if the US government had not bailed them out. How can anything China is doing to help BYD compare with that? Yet Tesla still needs 100% tariffs on BYD vehicles to compete?! Environmental regulations and alleged "slave labor" in China hasn't bothered the US government or US consumers for decad…
> Yet Tesla still needs 100% tariffs on BYD vehicles to compete?! Why does Canada also have 100% tariff? Why do you think the tariffs are only for Tesla? Again, all US car companies have a fairly ludicrous government mandate [1] for EV production: > In April, the EPA finalized its “Multi-Pollutant Emissions Standards for Light-Duty and Medium-Duty Vehicles for MY 2027 and Later” rule that could effectively call for 4…
I think the lithium/cobalt argument is a bit of a straw man, since the generally accepted view is that the US likely has an abundance of such deposits but simply has not opted to do significant extraction.
Also, from the standpoint of the security risk associated with China controlling the supply, the US coudl also opt for strategic reserves of key items at a much lower cost than the cost of tariffs on the economy.
An easy way to help EV companies would be to stop spending trillions of dollars on petrolium-related wars. If you do the math, gas should cost at least double at the pump what it typically costs. The rest of the cost is the massive military operations needed to keep prices what they are. Those operations are not free by any means and are certainly not budgeted (so they are still yet to be paid for).
So in the supposedly capitalist US we have thousands in subsidy for EVs and Trillions in subsidies for petrolium related military operations, and now 100% tariffs on competitive EVs, etc. Why? Because China is evil? Because Saddam is evil?
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No need for doubt. There's no reason to remotely operate the van since it's a vehicle like the car, and it is already known that they have mostly functional FSD from the many owners driving Tesla cars these past years.
>mostly functional FSD from the many owners driving Tesla cars these past years Given the staggering amount of mishaps that have been showcased, I would dispute this
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The safety people got a hold of it, but they did end up releasing it, although it refuses to do a lot of simple stuff you ask it to.
“The safety people” are gone. OpenAI is just very comfortable lying right around the time google is doing a big public announcement. Where is Sora? Everyone and their dog has video gen out now, Sora is conspicuously absent.
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Do you think you look convincing, trying to pretend you're not aware of Elon Musk's reputation? He's literally the richest person on Earth. It's as if you're pretending you don't know what Santa Claus is about. I've heard of Santa Claus, but what does he do exactly?
I know who he is, what are you going on about? Why don't you give me some examples of why you think he's a bad person?
at this point there has to be some assumption that the confusion on your side lies in that all the rest of us think demonstrate that he is a "bad person" are things that you think makes him a "good person", so there is probably no point in supplying them