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If you are accusing her of bribery, that is a very serious allegation. Imagine if such a thing happens and is eventually exposed. What a scandal would it be. I don't think any large company, let alone Apple, would want to be involved in any such mess.

It is completely reasonable to investigate bribery where there is a perceived unreasonable decision and a heavy financial motive. Individuals working at large companies do bribe people in a variety of situations. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/business/wal-mart-bribery-...

Okay. Let me qualify my point. I find it hard to believe such a high profile bribery can happen in the US (the article you have posted is a case of bribery by an American company in Mexico). And given Apple's profile and a lot of entities already pursuing their case (ex: NYT's iEconomy series), they would never do such a big blunder.

Re: #BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

#192

Perhaps Samsung will consider not slavishly copying Apple design for their next products?

What is the phone/design/patent in question? Is it just the Galaxy Nexus? It doesn't look like an iPhone, is it some internal component?

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You can hit the pause button or scroll down a bit.

Scrolling down a bit doesn't help at all. Where's the pause button? That is unusable.

Be sure to send Google feedback.

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Re: #BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

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If you actually used Reddit you would notice that most ignorant and outright trollish comments are downvoted into oblivion. You see a lot more awful comments, but that's only because Reddit is larger. They're treated the same.

Not if you make a comment like "iSuck, but I think I am better that everyone" on r/technology. I wish your description were true everywhere.

Comments like that usually come after a long, dumb tree that started out with good intentions. It happens on HN too. The difference is that I can collapse those threads on Reddit, or hide the story completely.

Re: #BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

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Nope. It works slightly different, first companies like Motorola, Nokia, Samsung and others invested billions of dollars in creating telecommunication standards. Next those companies are forced to license patents for those technologies to Apple. Apple creates phone which base in 95% on technology created by those companies, they are adding several features like "slide to unlock" or "pinch to zoom" and patent it. Sams…

So, the takeaway is, "Damn, Apple is good at this capitalism game."

Nope ;-) Problem with Apple is that if all players will play using Apple strategy we will not have any innovation at all. Motorola, Nokia, Samsung invested billions in mobile technology without knowing if this will even work, they risked and created cell phones and so on. They had big invest, big risk and at the end big win. Apple didn't take any risk, they simply polished existing products and started to sell it with much higher price tag. This isn't wrong, wrong is this that Apple tries to block another players using courts. Apple didn't make big invest, didn't take big risk, but takes biggest win by using patent system to force all competitors to give to Apple theirs patents (and when Motorola says, OK we want 2.5% of iPhone price as fee for our patents Apple screams that Motorola wants way too much... yeah, it's only essential technology for mobile phone, so who cares?), without letting them to use Apple's patents. If players like Motorola or Nokia would use Apple strategy we would simple still using line phones. Because nobody would invent cell phones, the best strategy would be to patent idea of cell phone and to wait till somebody will build it and to sue him. Patent system was intended to promote innovation, but here it isn't doing it, it is used to block innovation. Google didn't patent notifications, so thanks to this users of iOS5 may use much better notifications. Thanks to this that Google didn't patent it, users of Apple so competitor product may use it. But Apple patents all small things blocking other players. Apple behaves like parasite on innovation tree, and patent system should protect whole tree because this guarantee progress and innovation.

Re: #BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

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"...instead of being nice..." There is the problem. Apple is a business, it doesn't exist for altruistic reasons. Neither does Google, no matter how vehemently they say that they do. As others have pointed out, there doesn't seem to be a boycott on Google for their part in the attempt to gain an import ban of the XBox or their support of the alleged abuse of FRAND patents, both by their newly acquired subsidiary. App…

All the early adopters already have their Xboxes. The iPhone is lame and tired, and there was nothing at Apple's WWDC that had any wow. For the moment, the fun stuff is coming from the Android ecosystem, and Apple is getting in the way of people getting it. Hence the wrath of the crowd who adore new things, the ones that Apple used to care about, before they crossed the chasm and jumped the shark.

That is entirely subjective, and bordering on a troll.

Re: #BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

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Loan shark. Fair enough. Although i do want to emphasize that only offensive parties are being hit with the frand patents. I really do think thats the most relevant moral ground here.

I disagree on the offensive party part - in Feb 2012, Google/Motorola used a pager-era patent to get an injunction against multiple Apple devices[1] in Germany. Apple had to disable iCloud push email feature to get their products back on shelf. [1] http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/02/apple-faces-double-wham...

How is Apple not an offensive party? Has Apple not sued Android based device makers before feb 2012?

Is Google/Motorola suing any party that has not first sued them or any of their partners for doing bussiness with Google?

Re: #BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

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"...instead of being nice..." There is the problem. Apple is a business, it doesn't exist for altruistic reasons. Neither does Google, no matter how vehemently they say that they do. As others have pointed out, there doesn't seem to be a boycott on Google for their part in the attempt to gain an import ban of the XBox or their support of the alleged abuse of FRAND patents, both by their newly acquired subsidiary. App…

> there doesn't seem to be a boycott on Google for their part in the attempt to gain an import ban of the XBox or their support of the alleged abuse of FRAND patents, both by their newly acquired subsidiary. That is because the perception is that they're using it to countersue Microsoft and Apple who filed the first volleys. >Apple are playing the same legal game as Google are. No, Apple was the initial aggressor aga…

The FRAND suit legally has nothing to do with this, and what's more it is blatant. What I see here is a bunch of fans of Google giving them a free ride. I don't like Apples approach at the moment either, but to lay any kind of blame solely at their feet is at best naive. Googles recent business dealing are far more worrisome, especially the Kenyan affair. It doesn't matter who shot first either.

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There's a big pause button at the very top right of the stream. Once paused, scrolling works great. How is that at all unusable?

"We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face is that, in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so."

From Ratatouille, perhaps Pixar's finest film.

Re: #BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

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I've owned two MacBooks, a MacBook Pro, and two iPhones, but I won't now. No more. I had no particular reason to want to boycott them then before because they weren't behaving atrociously at that time. The kind of person who would boycott Apple now is the kind of person who would have boycotted Microsoft back in the day, which also happens to be the kind of person (or one kind of person) who would have bought Apple p…

You're right, it's going to tarnish their reputation. But I still find it hard to believe that you'd put aside product quality and preferences because of this. In a couple month's time you'll forget most of the case (and eventually the Galaxy Nexus will come to market anyway). In a year's time you'll be comparing products on technical merits alone. I can't say what your next purchase will be, but I'll bet it will be…

In a year Apple will probably have done something new to piss off people who care about this kind of thing. If not, then you're right.
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