Earlier quoted context omitted.
> React is a library Can a library have compiler?)
That's an optional step for JSX cross-compilation. It's a language plugin; nothing really to do with frameworks or libraries.
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PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
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Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#22So let me get this straight... PayloadCMS is a framework, for Next.js which is a framework for the React framework. Yo dawg, i heard you like frameworks!
A common misconception. React is a library. These are examples for React frameworks: https://react.dev/learn/start-a-new-react-project#production... Next.js is a React framework. If Payload is a framework or not is debatable. I think it's more like a data layer around a database for a any js app and an Admin Panel (that uses Next.js now). It might be called a framework for your own Headless CMS, because it is code fi…
React was a library before hooks. Now it is a framework and decides when your code runs, not you. And now it is a terrible framework with server components.
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#23So let me get this straight... PayloadCMS is a framework, for Next.js which is a framework for the React framework. Yo dawg, i heard you like frameworks!
s/framework/abstraction/g
With that said, yep, I do like robust/stable and purposeful abstractions.
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#24I've been using Payload for 18 months. They're only recently (with the upcoming v3 release) really piggy-backing on Next.js' server and routing. Before that, it was "just" a really nice headless CMS built on Node/TypeScript. This was obviously posted in the wake of the WordPress drama, but I landed on Payload while feeling stagnant after 10+ years building on WordPress. Everything else I was doing was 100% TypeScript…
how does it compare to Django as far as battery-included goes
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#25They do mention WP (Word Press)... I am confused. What exactly this does? I get it takes care of content and they mention Stripe, so that is good. But is this WP compatible layer or this is accidental use of shorthand for something else? It is more like those templates that people use to jumpstart sites, I think this can be very useful. I don't want to sound too complainy over the free code you can get and examine yo…
They seem to recently position themselves as a Wordpress alternative. There is a blog post about migration from Wordpress to Payload including code: https://payloadcms.com/blog/how-to-migrate-from-wordpress-to... No, it's a Headless CMS, so no frontend themes and templates. They have an official demo page including a frontend, that you can base your work on: https://github.com/payloadcms/public-demo If you are lookin…
I think any solution that does not use PHP will not replace WordPress for most users, unless WP itself stagnates. "Anyone" can install Word press on a cheap shared hosting device and get started. That's why I think a real WP alternative will need to be based on PHP (Laravel?)
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#26I tried to switch to this from keystonejs. Keystone’s documentation is painfully inconsistent with its library. I have lost entire days over it. but “it works.”
Was expecting more with payload but seems to be another buggy experience but with better UI.
Eagerly waiting for a player in this space that isn’t just developer-first but also developer-friendly.
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#27I tried to switch to this from keystonejs. Keystone’s documentation is painfully inconsistent with its library. I have lost entire days over it. but “it works.” Was expecting more with payload but seems to be another buggy experience but with better UI. Eagerly waiting for a player in this space that isn’t just developer-first but also developer-friendly.
What bugs did you run into? This sentiment is not shared by the Payload community that I've seen.
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#28I've been using Payload for 18 months. They're only recently (with the upcoming v3 release) really piggy-backing on Next.js' server and routing. Before that, it was "just" a really nice headless CMS built on Node/TypeScript. This was obviously posted in the wake of the WordPress drama, but I landed on Payload while feeling stagnant after 10+ years building on WordPress. Everything else I was doing was 100% TypeScript…
How easy/hard would you consider the amount of work needed to create a ecommerce for digital products using Payload? I'm currently using WP + Woo but the plugins that I'm using aren't flexible enough and I'm re-inventing some of them, so might as well re-invent some more and learn Next.
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#29The pitch alone on PayloadCMS shows that this is still a developer-focused CMS. Just look at the difference between the github page, the Payload website, and wordpress.org's landing. This is not purely a marketing difference but a strategic conversation. I'm all about transitioning CMSes and yet WordPress has got the turnkey part of their open-source platform clear and easy to understand. You can self-host or choose…
I work on Payload and this feedback is noted!
You can deploy Payload anywhere you can deploy any Nextjs app, and as of v3, you'll be able to deploy it to serverless environments too like Vercel and Netlify. We'll work on adding more deployment guides directly into our docs for various platforms as well to help with this.
Again, we read everyone's feedback about Payload itself and our website so it's very much appreciated and we'll be addressing this gap in how we present ourselves!
edit: I may have misunderstood your initial point, oops
Yeah we're not consumer facing in the way Wordpress is. It's quite a huge gap to fill
Re: PayloadCMS: Open-Source, Fullstack Next.js Framework
#30So let me get this straight... PayloadCMS is a framework, for Next.js which is a framework for the React framework. Yo dawg, i heard you like frameworks!
A common misconception. React is a library. These are examples for React frameworks: https://react.dev/learn/start-a-new-react-project#production... Next.js is a React framework. If Payload is a framework or not is debatable. I think it's more like a data layer around a database for a any js app and an Admin Panel (that uses Next.js now). It might be called a framework for your own Headless CMS, because it is code fi…
React hasn't been a library since they added hooks.
Hooks themselves are just a solution to async code, but the implication was that react was no longer a state-based UI rendering library and became a full blown frontend framework.