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Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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It seems there have been many opinions questioning why a tool for editing pure HTML is being developed now. Here is my current view on this matter: These days, it's rare to directly handle HTML files on the frontend of web applications, and placing key elements using absolute or relative coordinates is also uncommon, so the use cases for this extension are currently quite limited. However, it could be somewhat useful…

There are so many websites downloading entire web frameworks, tens of megabytes, to display static web pages. Maybe a contact form, or a twitter embed or something. I absolutely loathe it and if these sorts of tools even slightly move the needle towards bringing back standard HTML sites, I'm so incredibly for them.

The web is so flat and dull now.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

#93
post #47

Are we trying to reinvent web development? Last few years have been wild. We abandoned HTML CSS and JS websites that used to work just fine and ran after frontend component frameworks and now the circle is getting completed by building tools and extensions we had 20 yrs ago

>We abandoned HTML CSS and JS websites that used to work just fine Hmm. Have you actually done much web development in the last 10 years? Building websites with raw HTML, CSS and JS 10 years ago was very much not "just fine". There's a reason frameworks were invented.

The reason being CV driven development in most cases.

For the large part of projects I work on, plain old server side rendering with sprinkles of vanila.js work just fine.

At least folks now rediscovered SSG, but they seem to build rewriting bundlers in Rust as well.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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post #7

we've come full circle - macromedia dreamweaver had this in 2001

Wait till you hear about Typescript, you know adding types to ECMAScript, like Macromedia did some 20 years ago. :) Being in the industry for 20+ years and starting as a teenager making games in Flash it makes really hard for me to treat webdev seriously with all their revolutionary innovations. At work I often encounter a resistance to a tech or solution I propose, because "there hasen't been any substational contri…

JavaScript 4, had it not been sabotaged.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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post #93
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>We abandoned HTML CSS and JS websites that used to work just fine Hmm. Have you actually done much web development in the last 10 years? Building websites with raw HTML, CSS and JS 10 years ago was very much not "just fine". There's a reason frameworks were invented.

The reason being CV driven development in most cases. For the large part of projects I work on, plain old server side rendering with sprinkles of vanila.js work just fine. At least folks now rediscovered SSG, but they seem to build rewriting bundlers in Rust as well.

> sprinkles of vanila.js work just fine.

Bullshit. jQuery as a library didn't inherently cause spaghetti code, it was predominantly just used as a cross-browser selector function and some standard library augmentation/fixes before JS itself caught up. Sprinkles of progressive enhancement jQuery were exactly the problem that caused frameworks to be created. Sprinkles of vanilla JS lead to the exact same outcome, minus a jQuery library load.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

#97
post #44

Are we trying to reinvent web development? Last few years have been wild. We abandoned HTML CSS and JS websites that used to work just fine and ran after frontend component frameworks and now the circle is getting completed by building tools and extensions we had 20 yrs ago

And what is more crazy, acting as if they are something new, instead of something that is 20 years old.

No one's doing this, or at least not in the way you're implying.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

#98
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason being CV driven development in most cases. For the large part of projects I work on, plain old server side rendering with sprinkles of vanila.js work just fine. At least folks now rediscovered SSG, but they seem to build rewriting bundlers in Rust as well.

> sprinkles of vanila.js work just fine. Bullshit. jQuery as a library didn't inherently cause spaghetti code, it was predominantly just used as a cross-browser selector function and some standard library augmentation/fixes before JS itself caught up. Sprinkles of progressive enhancement jQuery were exactly the problem that caused frameworks to be created. Sprinkles of vanilla JS lead to the exact same outcome, minus…

Whatever dude, we're doing ASP.NET MVC and Spring/Jakarta with vanilla.js just fine, go improve that CV.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Because of the debacle around VSCode extensions owned by Microsoft that recently surfaced here on HN, it's good to have an alternative.

Do you have a link? Curious to know what the concerns were.

Many of Microsoft's extensions are closed source. This one does not appear to be, but MS has been known to replace open source VS Code extensions with closed source ones in the past.
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