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Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by IAmGraydon »

almostgotcaught wrote: post #29
zeroq wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait till you hear about Typescript, you know adding types to ECMAScript, like Macromedia did some 20 years ago. :) Being in the industry for 20+ years and starting as a teenager making games in Flash it makes really hard for me to treat webdev seriously with all their revolutionary innovations. At work I often encounter a resistance to a tech or solution I propose, because "there hasen't been any substational contri…

> how do you calculate hypotenuse, because it's been a long time since Pythagoras made the last commit. Asinine - everything advances and needs maintenance over time, even geometry. I invite you to try building a game without using quaternions or projective (ie non-euclidean) geometry. Edit: does hn award points based on contrariness? Or is it just that people on hn think they're super clever with their contrary poin…

> does hn award points based on contrariness? Or is it just that people on hn think they're super clever with their contrary point?

It’s both, and seems to be a theme here. HN generally despises the mainstream, so anything that goes against that is praised with little additional thought. A great example is the recent article about “founder mode” which is definitely one of the most idiotic contrarian things I’ve ever read, but receives heaps of upvotes every time it gets posted.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by IAmGraydon »

defrost wrote: post #40
almostgotcaught wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... The guy I responded to is saying Pythagoras is good enough. Do you know what year Pythagoras died?

Does that invalidate his theorem (that he cribbed from the Babylonians)?

No one said it invalidated his theorem. They said it has been expanded upon.

Also, comparing web technologies to something as fundamental as the pythagorean theorem is reductionist and overall pretty ridiculous. Web technologies need maintenance. Proven mathematical formulas don’t.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by ww520 »

zeroq wrote: post #7
whalesalad wrote: post #4

we've come full circle - macromedia dreamweaver had this in 2001

Wait till you hear about Typescript, you know adding types to ECMAScript, like Macromedia did some 20 years ago. :) Being in the industry for 20+ years and starting as a teenager making games in Flash it makes really hard for me to treat webdev seriously with all their revolutionary innovations. At work I often encounter a resistance to a tech or solution I propose, because "there hasen't been any substational contri…

Unless you are ready to maintain the product for the long term, proposing to use new tech is just resume development.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by worewood »

jeroenhd wrote: post #79
netdevnet wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be honest. Those old HTML+CSS+JS didn't have the interaction levels of modern applications. And jQuery was great until you reached a level of complexity after which it became jquery Bolognese. There are 2 main challenges: state and reusing pieces of html. Both of these are much harder in modern applications due to their complexity. Try reusing a piece of HTML using HTML+CSS+JS alone (no Node or back-end tools a…

Most "applications" I visit in my browser have no business being an application. The "clear search history" button in my start menu has no business loading a React environment with three redirects either. Some web applications need a boatload of frontend stuff to make them usable, but I rarely encounter websites that warrant such overkill. A payslip/email subscription/car rental website with a profile page and maybe…

I have to second this, 100%. Not everybody is developing the next Canva or the next Google Docs.

To me it sounds like people trying to justify that what they do has some higher value than what it really does.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by defrost »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #82
defrost wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that invalidate his theorem (that he cribbed from the Babylonians)?

No one said it invalidated his theorem. They said it has been expanded upon. Also, comparing web technologies to something as fundamental as the pythagorean theorem is reductionist and overall pretty ridiculous. Web technologies need maintenance. Proven mathematical formulas don’t.

They actually asked if I was aware what year he died.

The eponymous triangle work is just as valid as it ever was in Euclidean geometries - lot of work there. That work is just as wrong as it ever was in non-Euclidean geometries - maths is timeless like that.

> Also, comparing web technologies to something as fundamental as ...

Take that up with whomever it was that did that.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by braggerxyz »

jenadine wrote: post #26
profsummergig wrote: post #20

Is this a significant improvement from having a "live preview" on a browser?

You don't need to save. And it has nice features like highlights selection

You know that every respectable editor nowadays has a auto-save feature on focus loss? So just alt+tab from your editor to your browser and refresh.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by braggerxyz »

jayflux wrote: post #62

Nice extension, it may be worth in the readme explaining how it’s different to https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-livepreview which has been around for a long time and maintained by Microsoft.

Because of the debacle around VSCode extensions owned by Microsoft that recently surfaced here on HN, it's good to have an alternative.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by makestuff »

braggerxyz wrote: post #88
jayflux wrote: post #62

Nice extension, it may be worth in the readme explaining how it’s different to https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-livepreview which has been around for a long time and maintained by Microsoft.

Because of the debacle around VSCode extensions owned by Microsoft that recently surfaced here on HN, it's good to have an alternative.

Do you have a link? Curious to know what the concerns were.

Re: Show HN: A VSCode Extension to edit HTML visually in real-time

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Post by stevage »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #51
stevage wrote: post #47

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>We abandoned HTML CSS and JS websites that used to work just fine Hmm. Have you actually done much web development in the last 10 years? Building websites with raw HTML, CSS and JS 10 years ago was very much not "just fine". There's a reason frameworks were invented.

What do you consider "not fine" about websites written in "just" html, CSS, and js?

Using them was fine. but developing them, no. It's way more work just managing event handlers for a start.
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