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The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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post #95

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I simply don't use either. never have, never will. they do not serve my purpose, so they are irrelevant to my life.

Then it is important for you to recognize that you are a unicorn.

I think that’s only the case if you only meet people through TikTok and Twitter

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

#112
post #93

It really can't be underestimated either for children or adults how much we are dependent on ease of access. If you're stuck in a room and the only thing you can do is read a math textbook you are going to do it. If you are stuck in a room and you have a math textbook and a novel you now have a choice. A phone? A phone is everything else. You're putting "the thing we are supposed to be doing" and "everything else" in…

I use my phone to look up words/concepts/references all the time while reading - I couldn't do without it, flipping through a dictionary or walking up to a computer to read a quick Wikipedia intro to a concept/person/place/etc would just get me far more distracted.

Yet somehow we all survived before smartphones. If you have a question and raise your hand to ask, everyone else benefits from getting the answer as well.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

#113
post #93

It really can't be underestimated either for children or adults how much we are dependent on ease of access. If you're stuck in a room and the only thing you can do is read a math textbook you are going to do it. If you are stuck in a room and you have a math textbook and a novel you now have a choice. A phone? A phone is everything else. You're putting "the thing we are supposed to be doing" and "everything else" in…

I use my phone to look up words/concepts/references all the time while reading - I couldn't do without it, flipping through a dictionary or walking up to a computer to read a quick Wikipedia intro to a concept/person/place/etc would just get me far more distracted.

Sometimes when I'm reading a paper book I miss the easy access to a dictionary that I get on my ebook reader, but I have found I can just keep reading and infer enough to not interrupt my reading. I keep notes on a post-it and I check those later.

I'm not suggesting you do the same, is just that I felt identified with your comment.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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post #14
post #5

This is the principal of a school saying his policy works but he has no data to back it up. Seems like not a story.

Qualitative observations can often also be useful, even if they can’t be relied upon as proof.

It could also be the students hide them better, because they aren't allowed to have them.

When I visited one of our offices in India there was a phone ban. Employees were given a locker for their phone (and other stuff if they wanted), where the phone was to remain while they were in the work area. Being a visitor, I complied, but then quickly found out almost no one else did. They all secretly had their phones out doing whatever when the boss wasn't looking. I stopped locking mine up after a bit as well after seeing this.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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post #93

It really can't be underestimated either for children or adults how much we are dependent on ease of access. If you're stuck in a room and the only thing you can do is read a math textbook you are going to do it. If you are stuck in a room and you have a math textbook and a novel you now have a choice. A phone? A phone is everything else. You're putting "the thing we are supposed to be doing" and "everything else" in…

I use my phone to look up words/concepts/references all the time while reading - I couldn't do without it, flipping through a dictionary or walking up to a computer to read a quick Wikipedia intro to a concept/person/place/etc would just get me far more distracted.

Write those down on a list and look them up every 15 minutes.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

#116
post #93

It really can't be underestimated either for children or adults how much we are dependent on ease of access. If you're stuck in a room and the only thing you can do is read a math textbook you are going to do it. If you are stuck in a room and you have a math textbook and a novel you now have a choice. A phone? A phone is everything else. You're putting "the thing we are supposed to be doing" and "everything else" in…

I use my phone to look up words/concepts/references all the time while reading - I couldn't do without it, flipping through a dictionary or walking up to a computer to read a quick Wikipedia intro to a concept/person/place/etc would just get me far more distracted.

Do you think that's useful? The old school way would be to jot down notes about questions and followups. I'm curious if the old school way relates to better retention of both the questions and answers. My suspicion is yes. I should do this myself more.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

#117

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Then it is important for you to recognize that you are a unicorn.

I think that’s only the case if you only meet people through TikTok and Twitter

Your comment is totally irrelevant to the conversation regarding schools, though. Smartphones are massively corroding kids' brains these days, and YES, this is much worse than TV or video games back in the day.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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post #4
post #2

I don't dispute the facts in the article, but this question kept popping up in my mind: how do they define reading time? I mean, in a too-pedantic sense, smartphone screen time is roughly divided into reading, viewing (photos/videos), and gaming. Given that they are not allowed to take the phones, it seems unlikely that the school knows a student's primary usage mode. For example, a student could be reading a bunch o…

I'm a high school teacher. Not for long, but for a few years now. Never have I ever seen a student reading on their phone. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it must be a vanishingly small fraction that I have not yet encountered. When my students are on their phones, it's games, or it's (primarily video-based) social media. A smaller but notable fraction is background media consumption, either music or movies. Th…

I know I’m an autist and Wikipedia addictions are not the norm, but how can people not enjoy reading?

I got in trouble all the time in school for reading (real books) during class time when the teacher was lecturing about things I already knew. Do kids like this not exist anymore? I thought autism rates were going up!

Seriously, no one reads? I thought kids were getting all political and woke, presumably from reading progressive things? I guess it’s all TikTok mind control?

I categorically oppose phone bans on the grounds that it harms the “brilliant lazy”, and that these forces are exactly the kind you want to cultivate. (insert the famous bill gates and 4 types of German officers quote about this here) - but if this class of people has evaporated from the school systems than who am I even defending?

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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post #68

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Can't you just give them a dumb phone? Also, why do parents these days need so much that their kids have some an instant communication device?

At the school by me every day is a line that stretches for blocks of parents picking up their kids at 3pm. All of these cars and human time was previously handled by a school bus and one driver.

Why does this craziness happen?

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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post #95
post #89

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Sure, but the quick dopamine fix that you can get from scrolling TikTok or Twitter is way more corrosive than reading long form content in a library.

I simply don't use either. never have, never will. they do not serve my purpose, so they are irrelevant to my life.

And yet, you’re still on here posting along with the rest of us.
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