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Good news! You'll probably be able to get GLP-1 agonists in prison.
There are legal ways to stop paying taxes in a country, such as moving elsewhere. It is a much safer assumption to make than tax evasion.
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I would say my concerns are far more in the range of downstream effects from the medication. Specifically, I am concerned with muscle retention. Concerns aside, it's a little hard of an argument to swallow having visited many other countries where these things are simply not an issue. How can it be argued that the cause is anything other than behavior when so many others are doing just fine? There is more to this sto…
> How can it be argued that the cause is anything other than behavior when so many others are doing just fine? Aren’t you are ignoring the way western society influences behavior? eg lack of walkability of suburbs, massive price difference between fresh and processed foods, constant advertising of junk food & alcohol.
As someone who struggled with their weight his whole life, this medication is a god send. My wife and I cook every evening. We never eat food made in a factory. We buy raw products and spend a good amount of time every day cooking them. Every morning I wake up and go on a 5 mile hike. And still weight kept on coming on. Worse yet, I am on ADHD medication, which are amphetamines and actually make you lose weight. Yet.…
You mention types of food but not quantities. A boat load of healthy food is still going to have an effect. Also, I for one don't consider walking to be exercise. It's fake exercise for people who don't like exercise to claim they exercise. My reason is that I cycle for eight months of the year then walk during the rainy months. By the end of the rainy months I get back on the bike and my fitness level is catastrophi…
But yeah, it's not HIIT. You won't really build up your fitness level by walking - it's not demanding enough. You need to be pushing yourself until you're out of breath, if you want to build up your cardiovascular health.
A lot of people fail to realize that eating healthy and exercising is not enough for a lot of people who fight with their weight their entire lives. Ozempic and Wegovy are game changes and have real, tangible health benefits. One person told me, "No matter how much I eat or exercise, I have been 'hungry' my entire life. That ended when I started taking these drugs."
> One person told me, "No matter how much I eat or exercise, I have been 'hungry' my entire life. That ended when I started taking these drugs." I would change this to "No matter how much I eat, I have been hungry my entire life", because that's what my experience is. I'm nearly always hungry. Doesn't matter what I eat or how much of it. High protein, high fiber, moderate fat, low carb, all the steps people say cures…
Wegovy (which is the same drug, with a different name) is licensed for weight loss, if you fulfill certain criteria:
adult patients with an initial body mass index (BMI) of 30 kg/m2 or greater (obesity) or 27 kg/m2 or greater (overweight) in the presence of at least one weight-related comorbid condition (e.g., hypertension, type 2 diabetes mellitus, or dyslipidemia) [0]
[0] https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2023/21...
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What kind of food do you and your wife cook? How much meat? How much gluten? Real butter or canola oil infused “spreads”? What oil do you cook with? Vegetable? Sunflower? If you’re eating the right thing for your body, you’ll be satiated when you eat your full.
(I only cook with extra virgin olive oil which I buy in 5L cans for $$ reasons. A lot of these vegetable oils are good for motor engines only!). It really depends on you and the activity levels. I used to ride to and from work - and I would ride hard, a solid 1.5 hour of riding every single workday. Yet this just caused me to gain weight as my appetite just shot through the roof. This new drug would have been SO good…
Eat low calorie (and ideally high protein) after exercising. Fruit and Veg are amazing for this.
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> For the longest time people argued if overweight people ate too much or not. Maybe uneducated people, but when was the last time anyone seriously doubted that excess calories make you fat? For serious people the discussion has always been about how to reduce the calories, because "just eat less" is provably ineffective. Simple minded people continuously suggest otherwise, but data really doesn't support their intui…
It’s never been as black and white as you’re saying. Lot’s of medical practitioners will even advise you that it’s the quality of food you eat, more so than the quantity. Look at all the published research around processed foods and ultra-processed foods. Other nutritionists will advise you that obesity is all about your macros. And that if you want to lose weight you need to increase fat and protein intake and limit…
Everything else is about tangentially-related issues. Eating 'better' food (and there are many definitions of 'better') may be healthier. Eating unprocessed food may be healthier, and/or digest more slowly, and/or reduce hunger. Eating different food groups in different balances (e.g. high protein, whatever) may affect how quickly you become hungry, or support certain exercise better. Low/no-carb/keto diets may help some people lose weight more quickly/easily, and probably results in a steadier blood sugar profile. Limiting eating to certain time windows and/or fasting may have some health benefits, and also contribute to weight loss. (And some types of regimen may suit some personalities better.) Eating certain types of food (fat, protein, low-GI carbs) which are also not processed may digest more slowly, resulting in a steadier blood sugar profile and less hunger. Etc.
And despite all of this, it's also possible to lose weight by eating the worst food in the right quantities. See [0] or just Google the "Twinkie diet".
[0] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chewing-on-the-twinkie-di_b_7...
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Perhaps the first person on HN who actively and without shame pays attention to the fact that Adderall is a very nice amphet cocktail. Surprising though you don't loose wait with it, sad also given the circumstances. But I envy you a little cause such ADHD boost is only illegal in EU. Sometimes I wonder if it was a some neat trick by US gov to diagnose and put 1/5 of the population on amphetamines (2024 data +60mil p…
> 1/5 of the population suddenly increases output I’ve heard studies show Adderall doesn’t help people without ADHD… googling now seems to confirm. Apparently lots of people, especially college kids, take it thinking it will help, but it actually can slow them down.
As someone who struggled with their weight his whole life, this medication is a god send. My wife and I cook every evening. We never eat food made in a factory. We buy raw products and spend a good amount of time every day cooking them. Every morning I wake up and go on a 5 mile hike. And still weight kept on coming on. Worse yet, I am on ADHD medication, which are amphetamines and actually make you lose weight. Yet.…
"Why do we find it acceptable to help people who struggle with alcohol abuse, or nicotine addiction, or opioid addiction, but not to help people who struggle with food abuse?" I think it is because if 90% of the population did half of what you do (and kudos for you for doing it), they wouldn't have a problem with weight, you just happen to be one of the unlucky few where it doesn't work and these drugs are useful.
Commenter 2: Kodus to you. Let me just discount your anecdote as being unlucky and keep my current belief. But again, kudos.
HN threads on weightloss are an utter waste of time.
As someone who struggled with their weight his whole life, this medication is a god send. My wife and I cook every evening. We never eat food made in a factory. We buy raw products and spend a good amount of time every day cooking them. Every morning I wake up and go on a 5 mile hike. And still weight kept on coming on. Worse yet, I am on ADHD medication, which are amphetamines and actually make you lose weight. Yet.…
Perhaps the first person on HN who actively and without shame pays attention to the fact that Adderall is a very nice amphet cocktail. Surprising though you don't loose wait with it, sad also given the circumstances. But I envy you a little cause such ADHD boost is only illegal in EU. Sometimes I wonder if it was a some neat trick by US gov to diagnose and put 1/5 of the population on amphetamines (2024 data +60mil p…
Weird daydreams on this site.
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Sounds like a miracle drug that helps with all afflictions that come with our modern life/sedentary living.
The problem with this (and all diet plans/drugs) is the lifestyle that led to problem in the first place. If you do not change your lifestyle, for real and not just superficially, then you will relapse with a vengeance. That is to say, be careful with using a drug as a crutch. Sure, it can artificially make you much more interested in not consuming so many calories and/or perhaps being more active than before - but y…
There’s some small percentage of people for whom “discipline” is enough, but when people talk like you are with the implicit assumption that all fat people are lazy and immoral due to lack of “discipline”, you only reinforce the misinformation about the causes of obesity and make it harder to address novel causes with novel treatments.