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How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by Rnonymous »

martin82 wrote: post #846

Don't think the hype will last long at all, since this ridiculous drug has extremely bad side effects, and works by enriching the body with millions of small fat cells that are all ready to blow up the moment you stop taking the drug. Or in orher words, it's a trap. If you take it, you have to take it forever and suffer extreme side effects, if you stop taking it, you will turn into a fat pig, worse than before, and…

What side effects?

Blowing up fat cells?

I was "find this page" for side effects, but see little discussion about them. So am honestly intrigued, and would love to hear more.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by user3939382 »

mrshadowgoose wrote: post #544
OptionOfT wrote: post #420

As someone who struggled with their weight his whole life, this medication is a god send. My wife and I cook every evening. We never eat food made in a factory. We buy raw products and spend a good amount of time every day cooking them. Every morning I wake up and go on a 5 mile hike. And still weight kept on coming on. Worse yet, I am on ADHD medication, which are amphetamines and actually make you lose weight. Yet.…

> Why do we find it acceptable to help people who struggle with alcohol abuse, or nicotine addiction, or opioid addiction, but not to help people who struggle with food abuse? "Getting fit and staying fit" is a form of social capital, because it's extremely hard and only within reach of a small portion of the population. "Being fit" is strongly aligned with "being attractive" which confers all sorts of cross-cutting…

It’s only within reach of a small portion because of industrialized food. Look at a graph of obesity rates in the US over several decades. Find literally any picture of people at any beach in the US in the 60s or 70s versus now.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by Ferret7446 »

dtquad wrote: post #233
mritchie712 wrote: post #84

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Has there ever been a case where something like #2 has happened? Don't think you need to worry about that one.

There are some evidence that Ozempic/Wegovy actually cures more addictions than just food addiction. >The weight-loss jabs have apparently helped people kick habits from smoking to shopping, although scientists remain wary about recommending it as an addiction treatment https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/05/ozempic-a...

Which makes perfect sense. All addictions are basically* the same thing, an outlet for negative emotion. The "drug" of choice, whether that be food, video games, shopping, etc. is fairly superficial. Often, people who "kick" one addiction simply switch over to another addiction.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by Ferret7446 »

supportengineer wrote: post #270
andrewla wrote: post #239

I think Ozempic is a treatment of a symptom but not the underlying condition, but unlike many of the posters here, I do not think the underlying condition is "obesity". The below is mostly speculation. Research especially into people with healthy body weight seems to indicate that there is something going on that is causing widespread obesity. That is, there's some sort of environmental "GLP-1 Turbocharger". Maybe it…

We all know the problem: processed food and lack of exercise. We all know the solution: Organic vegetables, lean protein, and lots of exercise.

Processed food isn't the problem. Processed food is the bullet, so to speak.

The person holding the gun is mental issues. Mental issues cause people to eat unhealthily.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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tomp wrote: post #849
CM30 wrote: post #463

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Sounds similar to most major world/cultural issues today. You can make the exact same argument about climate change for example. But at the same time, part of me wants to ask... why is this a problem? Why shouldn't we just use science and technology to fix human problems and remove any unfortunate consequences from society? What's wrong with a world where anyone can eat as much of anything as they want, do no exercis…

Because some of us want the real thing, not the fake thing achieved by cheaters. I'm the same in other areas of life. I don't take steroids, I work out in the gym. I don't take drugs to have trips and achieve enlightenment, I tried to find Zen on my own. I wouldn't partner with someone who had a cosmetic surgery ("fake beauty"), nor someone who wears makeup. Up to every individual of course, I'm not even saying I wil…

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by xkbarkar »

hilux wrote: post #434

Living a healthy lifestyle, so that you won't need Ozempic, is possible - even surrounded by all the drugs and booze and carbs. I do it. Lots of people do it. The information is freely available, now more than ever. From all I've read, Ozempic isn't a silver bullet, and has many side effects. It just helps people stave off the inevitable for a while.

Disclaimer I have never been obese or suffered obesity.

If it was easy no one would be fat. The whole body acceptance movement is a sham and always will be. We dont find obesity attractive and we do not want to be obese. However for some reason 60% of us in the west are overweight. And it is extremely hard to lose the kilos. We are eating too much and we shame eachother for eating small portions or skipping meals.

But put simply, we have normalized large portions and eating five times per day.

And its super hard to cut the volume after a lifetime of large portions and eating ever two hours nonsense.

I sympathise with obesity sufferers and hope that the outcome of all of this is to normalise smaller portions and fewer meals again.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by sirsinsalot »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #825
refurb wrote: post #799

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> And you know what it is? It's volume. I eat too much. 100% this. I lived in Asia for a few years and obesity is rare (though increasing for youth). It's not like they get more exercise (most people don't) or eat healthy (it's mostly carbs), but 100% portion sizes. I see people who work manual labor jobs eat lunch that is a bowl of noddles, a few thin slices of chicken or pork, and a few veggies. I highly doubt it e…

> It's probably half the portion size you'd get in the US. A lot of the sides in your average US restaurant is easily 1000kcal on its own

That's insane. It's also not just about calories. The amount of corn syrups used in drinks is crazy too. Your body will just spike your glucose and dump it to fat.

It amazes me that Americans head scratch over their obesity epidemic then reach for a product to solve the issues their food industry and culture made for them.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by cromka »

l2silver wrote: post #786
mrshadowgoose wrote: post #544

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> Why do we find it acceptable to help people who struggle with alcohol abuse, or nicotine addiction, or opioid addiction, but not to help people who struggle with food abuse? "Getting fit and staying fit" is a form of social capital, because it's extremely hard and only within reach of a small portion of the population. "Being fit" is strongly aligned with "being attractive" which confers all sorts of cross-cutting…

> Some people feel cheated when medication allows others to "effortlessly" join this social club, and then become vile and hateful in response. I don't think this is just about a social club. Battling weight loss and habits is foundational to the human experience from the most recent centuries. Be it drugs, or anything else really that changes the nature of these challenges, people are going to feel discomfort becaus…

The idea is this drug kick starts people to form new habits going forward. As witnessed by other commenters I. This thread as well.
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