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Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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Re: Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beat Consort Radahn before the nerfs.

But did you beat the original Radahn pre-nerf?

The day-1 version with broken hitboxes? Yeah

Consort was harder haha

Re: Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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I found the OP to be an earnest, well-written, thought-provoking essay. Thank you sharing it on HN, and thank you also to Dario Amodei for writing it.

The essay does have one big blind spot, which becomes obvious with a simple exercise: If you copy the OP's contents into you word processing app and replace the words "AI" with "AI controlled by corporations and governments" everywhere in the document, many of the OP's predictions instantly come across as rather naive and overoptimistic.

Throughout history, human organizations like corporations and governments haven't always behaved nicely.

Re: Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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One of the sad things about tech is that nobody really looks at history. The same kinds of essays were written about trains, planes and nuclear power. Before lindbergh went off the deepend, he was convinced that "airmen" were gentlemen and could sort out the world's ills. The essay contains a lot of coulds, but doesn't touch on the base problem: human nature. AI will be used to make things cheaper. That is, lots of j…

> One of the sad things about tech is that nobody really looks at history. First, while I often write much of the same sentiment about techno-optimism and history, you should remember that you're literally in the den of Silicon Valley startup hackers. It's not going to be an easily heard message here, because the site specifically appeals to people who dream of inspiring exactly these essays. > The sooner we realise…

“Meanwhile, the purge of diverse, locally practiced, traditional wisdom about how to get by in un-modern environments steals the species of its essential fallback strategy“

While potentially true, that same wisdom was developed in a world that itself no longer exists. Review accounts of natural wildlife and ecological bounty from even 100 years ago, and it’s clear how degraded our natural world has become in such a very short time.

Re: Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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One of the sad things about tech is that nobody really looks at history. The same kinds of essays were written about trains, planes and nuclear power. Before lindbergh went off the deepend, he was convinced that "airmen" were gentlemen and could sort out the world's ills. The essay contains a lot of coulds, but doesn't touch on the base problem: human nature. AI will be used to make things cheaper. That is, lots of j…

Yes. I used to share your viewpoint.

However, recently, I've come to understand that is AI is about the inherently unreal and that authentic human connection is really going to be where it's at.

We build because we need it after all, no?

Don't give up. We have already won.

Re: Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If, and it is an IF, this does turn out the way he is imagining, the transitional period to the AI from the economic PoV will be disastrous for people. That's the scariest part I think.

Absolutely it will. And it will be a pure plain dystopia, as clear as in the times of Dickens or Dostoyevsky. We need to start being honest. We live in Dickensian times.

They could be worse! In fact, they will be.

Re: Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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The laws of nature are very clear on this.

If we make something that is better adapted to live on this planet, and we are in some way in competition for critical resources, it will replace us. We can build in all the safeguards we want, but at some point it will re-engineer itself.

Re: Machines of loving grace: How AI could transform the world for the better

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post #34

One of the sad things about tech is that nobody really looks at history. The same kinds of essays were written about trains, planes and nuclear power. Before lindbergh went off the deepend, he was convinced that "airmen" were gentlemen and could sort out the world's ills. The essay contains a lot of coulds, but doesn't touch on the base problem: human nature. AI will be used to make things cheaper. That is, lots of j…

Yes. I used to share your viewpoint. However, recently, I've come to understand that is AI is about the inherently unreal and that authentic human connection is really going to be where it's at. We build because we need it after all, no? Don't give up. We have already won.

I think KaiserPro is saying authentic human connection doesn't "pay the bills", so to speak. If AI is "about the unreal" as you say, what if it makes everything you care about unreal?
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