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How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by colordrops »

OptionOfT wrote: post #420

As someone who struggled with their weight his whole life, this medication is a god send. My wife and I cook every evening. We never eat food made in a factory. We buy raw products and spend a good amount of time every day cooking them. Every morning I wake up and go on a 5 mile hike. And still weight kept on coming on. Worse yet, I am on ADHD medication, which are amphetamines and actually make you lose weight. Yet.…

Have you every using a calorie/macro tracking app like My Fitness Pal or Cronometer? I was never successful losing weight until I scanned, weighed, and measured every single thing I put into my body and stuck to the target calories and macros entered into the app. Just being aware of exactly how much I was eating was often enough to find the motivation to control volume.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by Someone1234 »

hilux wrote: post #434

Living a healthy lifestyle, so that you won't need Ozempic, is possible - even surrounded by all the drugs and booze and carbs. I do it. Lots of people do it. The information is freely available, now more than ever. From all I've read, Ozempic isn't a silver bullet, and has many side effects. It just helps people stave off the inevitable for a while.

The population level statistics show that you're the exception and not the rule. Obviously if the side-effects are unpleasant, the alternative health implications must be even worse: Which they are.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by rootusrootus »

mlsu wrote: post #381
robohydrate wrote: post #299

I've been on tirzepatide (Mounjaro) for 4 months now. I'm down 13% of my body weight. I realized that frequent cannabis consumption interferes with the weight loss, so I've kicked the habit from daily to occasionally on weekends. I've started walking 2-3 miles a day, 2-3 days a week regularly, in addition to eating less and being more motivated to calorie count. All this to say, this drug has been life changing for m…

My view about obesity has shifted dramatically since Ozempic came out. Before this, I didn't think about it too much (I am not obese myself). I notice now that there is a LOT of judgement, bias(?), around obesity, that people, obese or not, carry with them [1]. I certainly carried that bias, and the reason I noticed it was because Ozempic is literally an external substance that you take that simply makes obesity go a…

> people thinking that taking Ozempic is a personal failing

I expect that the people who hold this viewpoint are afraid that their lack of being overweight will not be seen as badge of honor, a sign of superior morals and willpower.

To them I say -- GLP-1 agonists are good for anxiety, too!

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by Animats »

Novo Nordisk just settled with Viatris, a company which was trying to have the Ozempic patent cancelled.[1] That would have killed their monopoly. "Terms of the settlement are confidential".

They just did the same thing with Mylan.[2]

And may have done something similar with Rio Pharmaceuticals.[3]

The Federal Trade Commission is also fighting that.[4]

[1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/novo-nordisk-settle...

[2] https://iplaw.allard.ubc.ca/2024/10/08/settlement-of-patent-...

[3] https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/52064967/NOVO_NORDI...

[4] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/30/ftc-challenges-patents-held-...

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by paulcole »

llamaimperative wrote: post #264
paulcole wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like saying, "All things being equal, I'd prefer Santa Claus bring presents on Christmas Eve than have to go shopping for my kids." It's like well duh of course you'd prefer the impossibly unrealistic miracle.

Impossibly unrealistic to change zoning to disincentivize car-dependent urban design? Impossibly unrealistic to get rid of enormous sugar production subsidies that make it insanely cheap? Impossibly unrealistic to simply tax added sugar?

All 3 seem to be going swimmingly so far!

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by pixl97 »

tjader wrote: post #97
codingdave wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because not everyone has willpower and discipline. People who do have those strengths often think it is just as simple as saying, "Just take care of yourself", but it is not that easy for many people. High blood sugar also increases cravings, which makes it even harder, bringing on a downward spiral. This drug can help break out of that spiral and fix the craving/willpower problems.

I don't think it's just people who have willpower and discipline, it seems to me that for most people it doesn't take as much willpower and discipline to stay at a reasonable weight. These arguments make it sound as if everyone who is at a reasonable weight is there through large amounts of willpower and discipline, but most people I know don't need to exercise X times per week and constantly watch what they eat to k…

Yea, when you look historically, starvation and food shortages were the norm. If you were a person that could pack on the pounds during the bountiful times, you could survive the lean times. Suddenly we live in the times of never ending plenty and we're told "what's wrong with you".

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by sureIy »

hilux wrote: post #434

Living a healthy lifestyle, so that you won't need Ozempic, is possible - even surrounded by all the drugs and booze and carbs. I do it. Lots of people do it. The information is freely available, now more than ever. From all I've read, Ozempic isn't a silver bullet, and has many side effects. It just helps people stave off the inevitable for a while.

> The information is freely available, now more than ever

You have to believe it to find it.

Noise is everywhere, now more than ever. I think finding proper information is going to be exponentially harder.

A couple of days ago I was "fighting" on Reddit about something that is as clear as day, with proof and all, with people who were completely sure of the opposite (side note: this is when I deleted my Reddit accounts)

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by Retr0id »

As far as I can tell, the intended meaning of the question in the title is "how long until everyone who wants Ozempic can have it?".

But at first I read it in a more cynical and sinister way, the more literal interpretation - how long until everyone is on weight loss drugs?

In a world where such medications are normalized, fast-food/processed-food companies might just work harder to make their products more addictive and pervasive, and then we're all back to square one.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by globular-toast »

OptionOfT wrote: post #420

As someone who struggled with their weight his whole life, this medication is a god send. My wife and I cook every evening. We never eat food made in a factory. We buy raw products and spend a good amount of time every day cooking them. Every morning I wake up and go on a 5 mile hike. And still weight kept on coming on. Worse yet, I am on ADHD medication, which are amphetamines and actually make you lose weight. Yet.…

I think there's a few factors at play:

1. People might want to help, but they don't think taking a pill every day for the rest of your life is a proper solution. I'm not aware of any such things for other addictions you mention,

2. People don't want other people to have it easier than they did. "I had to diet and exercise etc, you should too",

3. People don't want to help. They want other people to be fat because it makes them relatively more attractive.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by llamaimperative »

paulcole wrote: post #525
llamaimperative wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Impossibly unrealistic to change zoning to disincentivize car-dependent urban design? Impossibly unrealistic to get rid of enormous sugar production subsidies that make it insanely cheap? Impossibly unrealistic to simply tax added sugar?

All 3 seem to be going swimmingly so far!

Do you need an explanation of the difference between "impossible" and "challenging?"
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