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How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by pixl97 »

elif wrote: post #64
setgree wrote: post #13

There's some evidence that Ozempic improves general impulse control, e.g decreasing alcohol consumption [0], which the article mentions. Also, as Tyler Cowen writes [1], this is probably going to translate into big improvements for animal welfare: > People lose weight on these drugs because they eat less, and eating less usually means eating less meat. And less meat consumption results in less factory farming. This s…

That sounds speculative and would require some deep research to find if it's even happening. I think it's equally plausible that the US increases food exports rather than lower production. Especially as production is subsidized.

If this increases food stability around the world, then in general it's a good thing.

This said, obesity is exploding everywhere else in the world too, so it's not just a US problem.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by EA-3167 »

itronitron wrote: post #423
robohydrate wrote: post #299

I've been on tirzepatide (Mounjaro) for 4 months now. I'm down 13% of my body weight. I realized that frequent cannabis consumption interferes with the weight loss, so I've kicked the habit from daily to occasionally on weekends. I've started walking 2-3 miles a day, 2-3 days a week regularly, in addition to eating less and being more motivated to calorie count. All this to say, this drug has been life changing for m…

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On an account from 2018? That's quite the long game to play when this drug doesn't even require marketing to sell out.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by bloopernova »

lurking_swe wrote: post #72
codingdave wrote: post #31

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Because not everyone has willpower and discipline. People who do have those strengths often think it is just as simple as saying, "Just take care of yourself", but it is not that easy for many people. High blood sugar also increases cravings, which makes it even harder, bringing on a downward spiral. This drug can help break out of that spiral and fix the craving/willpower problems.

what you say is mostly true, but I will point out that it does not break any spiral. It’s frequently reported that as soon as you stop taking Ozempic, the weight comes back immediately. so unless one resolves the underlying problem, you will be on this drug for life.

Perfectionism prevents progress.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by op00to »

dullcrisp wrote: post #474
op00to wrote: post #461

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The experience in that comment is literally my experience w/ a GLP-1 Agonist! Poop fart dong gobbler. A marketing team wouldn't write that, though, so you can believe me!

A scrappy marketing team though

ahh got me

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by FooBarBizBazz »

gcr wrote: post #281
paulmist wrote: post #249

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What is a realistic path to this? Being from Europe I visited US last year and was horrified at the quality of your food. You see a lot of documentaries/youtube videos/etc... discussing the problem, but how do you even go about this?

We have good food, but you won't find it on "The Easy Path." The Easy Path is that gentle encouragement to hit up Chipotle for lunch, because it's "right there." The Easy Path says dinner's hard and you've had a long day, so get something simple, like take-out or microwave. The Easy Path is entropy. The Easy Path is self-care over struggle. The Easy Path is simple carbs shown on prominent display in store shelves. Th…

I think you're making this sound harder than it is.

If you count calories and stick to a budget, you will lose weight, even if those calories come from deep-fried fast food. Sure, it's good to eat more whole fruits and vegetables, and you should, but weight loss doesn't require some kind of Edenic perfection. Stick to a calorie budget and you will lose weight, the end.

We can add some second and third order provisos, sure. The next tip would be to go low carb. And to keep a spreadsheet with calorie numbers for everything you eat. Track what you're doing.

But basically, if you eat 1500 kcal/day for nine months, you will be much thinner. We don't have to make it harder than that. It works. Perfection is not required.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by WalterBright »

kps wrote: post #453
mayukh wrote: post #391

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Obesity is a side effect of the industrial food production system in advanced economies that is slowly spreading all over the globe. How about alcohol and smoking ? Is that the same as obesity then

> Obesity is a side effect of the industrial food production system in advanced economies that is slowly spreading all over the globe. Yes, for the first time in the millions of years of existence of humanity and pre-humanity, we consistently have enough to eat.

The US solved the food problem around 1800, being the first country to end the specter of famine.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by mbivert »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #447
itronitron wrote: post #433

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How does the critical reading help you tell ad copy apart from an honest and enthusiastic recommendation? Not a rhetorical question.

Sure, there may be honest and enthusiastic people. But their input would be essentially that of an ad: a product with 100% gain and 0% loss? That's never been observed, never; there's always a trade-off.

A less emotionally grounded, more balanced and nuanced description would be more accurate, honest. But it'd sell way less.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by pixl97 »

sph wrote: post #286
Uehreka wrote: post #271

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I gained about 50 pounds the past decade and the past year I’ve been trying to lose it. I weighed myself at the beginning: 205 lbs I started running 30 minutes per day (heartrate training targeting about 140-150), every day, for 10 months. I kept my diet the same as before (though with a protein bar after the run). Weighed myself every week or two, always within a couple pounds of 205. In March I ramped up my runs to…

What do you eat? I bet $10 either it's calorie-counted standard high carb diet or something that is low in protein and fats. The physiology of dieting, and avoiding hunger, is pretty well understood at this point. Just don't ask your GP or they'll just tell you to stop eating red meat and eat more cereals as the "solution".

Eh, in a clinical setting only eating "good food" works fine.

In the real world this is not what people experience. Especially those that experience mental food noise.

Imagine there is a donut in a box at work. It's free, you can have it at any point. It's junk food, it's bad for you, it's not part of your diet and you don't want it. I mean you ate a high fiber food and protein earlier, you shouldn't be hungry at all. Now imagine there's an additional voice in your head that just slips in "Ok, finish that page your on and go pick up that donut". How long can you resist it? You probably won't even notice it since it's the normal stream of thought you have. At some point you'll end up with that donut in your hand.

Now take a GLP-1. The voice gets silenced. If you smoke or drink you'll notice that you don't really want to do that either.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by danbolt »

llamaimperative wrote: post #256
gcr wrote: post #229

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If you have an open mind, I'd like to assign you some homework if you like. Take a look around r/zepbound and count the following: 1. Posts from folks who diet+exercise, or who have tried diet/exercise and nothing's worked so they then turned to Zepbound ("excited to hit the gym," "my diet is finally starting to work with Zepbound" and similar) 2. Posts from folks who haven't tried diet/exercise and turned to Zepboun…

GP isn't talking about self-control, they're talking about the fact we've created a system that requires obscene amounts of self-control if you wish to maintain physical health. People in the 50s weren't slimmer because they had ironclad determination to stay such.

Yeah, they had nicotine!
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