Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’re a fool tricked by another fool who shouts loudly that they support free speech while they ban speech left and right. For goodness sake, ElonJet was banned and you can’t even say the word “cisgender” on the platform. How delusional are you?
I prefer that to the CIA having a direct line to the top of the platform and free reign to use it for propaganda, yes.
Tesla Robotaxi
681–690 of 788 posts
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#682Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's interesting, because FSD has probably driven a billion miles, but I couldn't find any useful statistics yet. So... I think it's a bit early to start believing the hype :)
Closest we have is this: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/tesla-full-self-driving...
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#683Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla has the world's best autonomous vehicle offering by some way of measuring things. There are many ways to measure things, but at least in some "category" they are indeed leading: Level 2 systems for the US which you can privately buy.
Mercedes already has a level 3 available for purchase in California: https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#684Earlier quoted context omitted.
Technology will be ready when it's ready. There's a strong sense of entitlement and resentment in some when it's not ready when expected. "Lie" is a stretch and frankly it's not necessary to stoop down to that level. It's enough to say he's been overoptimistic and mistaken, like any human.
Lie is not a stretch at this point. It very clearly hasn't been 'nearly ready' this entire 11 years. This isn't just a HN commenter who got carried away with starry eyed hype in a comment. This is a corporate salesman, and he's trying to sell a product that simply cannot do what he claims it can do. It's not human error at this point, he's just knowingly selling magic beans.
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#685Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn’t step into a Tesla robotaxi in bad weather, period. They’d absolutely need a human remotely operating it. Without a steering wheel, passengers can’t take control even if they wanted to. Even in good weather, I’d be genuinely surprised if Teslas, in their current form, could drive around autonomously. I was really hoping Musk would mention new sensors being added for extra safety, maybe spinning it as: “Your…
can multiple operators from India operate the robotaxis or does it need one on one operation? I mean consider the savings!
But this has definitely been researched a lot in the field of military drone operators who can make life altering decisions from thousands of miles away.
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#686The most interesting thing to me by far was the lack of a steering wheel on the Robocab. Without manual controls, vague promises ("puffery"?) about autonomy won't drive vehicle sales as they do today across all Tesla's models. The Robocab as shown literally cannot function (or make a dime of revenue) until they've fully solved autonomy and have convinced regulators of the same.
Autonomy is solved. It will have hiccups/mistakes, but fewer than a human driver makes. The lack of steering wheel is solved by having support drivers who can work it remotely when the passenger presses a 'help' button or similar.
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#687Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading any HN thread connected to Musk is so annoying because all the political obsessives come out and crapflood the thread with rants about "manbabies."
Well its true. We can use other terms but they describe underlying fact of a brilliant but deeply troubled person with serious mental issues and sometimes infantile emotional reactions. Plus a horrible parent. The times when such successful persons were unanimously celebrated and their flaws were ignored are luckily over for good. Call it what you like, this is reality that very few are happy about. Imagine if this g…
Not many people could have created SpaceX. Even fewer could have made Tesla work. I don't know that anyone else could have done both.
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#688Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mercedes, unlike every other automaker, including Tesla, *takes over legal liability* in those circumstances. They're putting their money where Musk's mouth is. And next year it will go up to 85kmph, close to highway speeds.
They’re taking legal liability when you are driving a straight line on selected freeways going less than 40mph and with a car in front of you to follow during the day. This doesn’t demonstrate advanced capability, just limited scope.
And I actually believe Mercedes Benz, you know, the inventors of the automobile, to deliver.
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#689They claim that unsupervised autonomy in existing cars will arrive in California and Texas next year (with an easy bogieman that it will depend on regulatory approval), but no details as to what exactly this would mean. It’s possible that they might be able to get an Level 3 product out similar to offerings by the likes of Daimler, Cadillac, and Ford - where on certain highways under certain conditions you don’t have…
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#690Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which CEO is leaning into far-right conspiracy theories and using Twitter to boost the electoral chances of the most dangerous US presidential candidate in history?
The Twitter that's barely used by anyone and thus isn't important? Surely they should be using facebook, that's already proven to be great at helping with genocides
The simple fact is that Musk is a bad actor, an asshole with a huge ego, with a history of over promising and under delivering.
Is it so surprising to you that the supremely-unlikeable boy who cried wolf is being met with cynical skepticism?