What happened to self-control?
How long til we're all on Ozempic?
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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#82I’m just as curious as to why some people are so willing to take numerous medications, while others go to any lengths to avoid them. Some people are happy to be on an SSRI, sleeping pill, statin, low dose aspirin, and a few others, and aren’t bothered by this. Other people seem instinctively revolted by prescription drugs, seeing toxins pushed by evil corporations. Is it a trust issue? I personally detest and avoid a…
I think the answer to your question is that people who avoid drugs understand that drugs do not fix anything permanently, in 99% of cases. They only treat symptoms. The people who avoid drugs attempt to treat the underlying problems.
of course it’s not always practical. For example, some skinny people are simply genetically predisposed to high blood pressure, even if they work out and eat pretty healthy. It’s rare, but these things happen.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#83I’m just as curious as to why some people are so willing to take numerous medications, while others go to any lengths to avoid them. Some people are happy to be on an SSRI, sleeping pill, statin, low dose aspirin, and a few others, and aren’t bothered by this. Other people seem instinctively revolted by prescription drugs, seeing toxins pushed by evil corporations. Is it a trust issue? I personally detest and avoid a…
To address the question in your first paragraph, I think it's due to whether you think your locus of control is internal or external.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#84My biggest fear is either there will be long term negative consequences to Ozempic et al, and a huge swath of the population will be dealing with issues 30 years form now - OR - there will be some long term positive consequence to using Ozempic et al, and I'm not getting any of the benefits because I'm not overweight.
Has there ever been a case where something like #2 has happened?
Don't think you need to worry about that one.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#85I'd think it more likely that it'll be one of the next generation drugs, but I do agree with the premise that it will be really common. A few weeks ago I started a low dose of tirzepatide (aka Mounjaro, aka Zepbound) and the side effects are interesting. The biggest negative, which just takes adjustment, is drastically lower stomach capacity. Used to be that two eggs and two pieces of toast was breakfast. Now I bette…
It would be interesting to compare the anxiolytic effects of the drug versus the cancer anxiety caused by being on the drug.
The cancer anxiety could be reduced by frequent testing. e.g., having a thyroid ultrasound every 6 months, or a yearly abdominal MRI, just to make sure cancer is not brewing.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#86My biggest fear is either there will be long term negative consequences to Ozempic et al, and a huge swath of the population will be dealing with issues 30 years form now - OR - there will be some long term positive consequence to using Ozempic et al, and I'm not getting any of the benefits because I'm not overweight.
Has there ever been a case where something like #2 has happened? Don't think you need to worry about that one.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#87This article seems to frame things in such a strange way. Maybe instead of trying to get everyone obesity medication, we can instead educate society so we all understand nutrition and diet and can combat the ever-persistent forces of corporations pushing unhealthy food on us?
Why either/or?
Maybe we should try educate society on dangers of using heroin. I agree that it is a good thing, and we should continue educating people about its dangers. But clearly that alone didn’t solve the problem, and I think it would be a good idea to utilize alternative options as well (in addition to continuing the education of society on its dangers).
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#88Who has time to eat? Founder mode all day every day.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#89It's a pretty sad thought that everybody will be on a drug that keeps weight in check while most people will still eat a basically toxic diet. Weight is certainly an important factor but there is more to a healthy life.
> basically toxic diet
This is a bullshit term. Even fast food is not "toxic", it's just calorie-dense.
I got overweight eating nothing but "healthy" diet because I have never _liked_ fast food.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#90I don’t want this to come out insensitive or from under the rock, but why is taking a drug a novel & cool idea (all of a sudden/recently) as opposed to good old fashioned working out and not eating more than what you need? okay, this drug is all kinds of great and it’s the next best thing since green grapes, still not eating more and workout is better than taking drugs that effect your brain right? Are doctors requir…
In 2021 I lost a good chunk of weight the old fashioned way. From 250ish to 215. I did it with "good old fashioned working out and not eating more". It was a miserable, white-knuckle experience. I was eating healthy food, enough calories (moderate but sane deficit), but the only thing I thought about at all moments was getting to the next meal. What snack is low enough calories to have to make it. It was miserable. A…
> I still work on eating healthy, but now I'm not just HUNGRY at all moments.
I think this is something a lot of people pushing back against the GLP-1 agonists don't realize because they don't experience it: back before I started Mounjaro (another GLP-1 agonist) I was constantly hungry if I hadn't eaten a meal in the last 45 minutes. Absolutely zero hyperbole there - I once went to an all you can eat buffet, ate until I was over full, came home, and within about an hour and a half of that I was snacking on something because I was hungry. Not peckish. Not "feeling like a snack". Hungry to the point where that feeling intruded on my every thought until it was sated.
After starting Mounjaro that's GONE. Gone gone. I now have to set an alarm to remember to eat. It's absolutely phenomenal and likely the reason why I'll live past my forties instead of being stuck in that same cycle and dying of the effects of obesity.