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How long til we're all on Ozempic?
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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#42This article seems to frame things in such a strange way. Maybe instead of trying to get everyone obesity medication, we can instead educate society so we all understand nutrition and diet and can combat the ever-persistent forces of corporations pushing unhealthy food on us?
Yes, because what obese people lack is education.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but the "unhealthy but not excessively caloric" diet is not a problem ozempic attempts to address. As far as I understand, it simply limits your appetite. Potentially one can go on ozempic, lose weight, and still end up eating unhealthily, because the resulting diet is made up of nutritionally poor foods.
And the argument you are replying to is that it's just covering up a symptom and not addressing the root problem holistically. Ozempic isn't a fix, it's a bandaid.
Bandaids serve a genuinely useful health-promoting purpose. I suspect we'll find the same is true of GLP-1s even if it only addresses part of the entire problem.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#44There's some evidence that Ozempic improves general impulse control, e.g decreasing alcohol consumption [0], which the article mentions. Also, as Tyler Cowen writes [1], this is probably going to translate into big improvements for animal welfare: > People lose weight on these drugs because they eat less, and eating less usually means eating less meat. And less meat consumption results in less factory farming. This s…
How long till we become voluntary Voyagers [0] ?
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
From my understanding GLP-1 agonists can actually modulate the reward pathway reducing people's appetite for toxic diets. We're not socially caught up yet to this information. I suspect there are folks who believe that regardless of similar outcome (reduction of toxic diet), that changing diet without medication is superior to those who change their behavior through pharmacological intervention. It's like the pre-199…
You can literally do the same thing by eating a healthy diet for 2-4 weeks.
That's a trivial claim about any medication that changes behavior. You can achieve the same thing that the medication does by "just" having different behavior.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#46There's some evidence that Ozempic improves general impulse control, e.g decreasing alcohol consumption [0], which the article mentions. Also, as Tyler Cowen writes [1], this is probably going to translate into big improvements for animal welfare: > People lose weight on these drugs because they eat less, and eating less usually means eating less meat. And less meat consumption results in less factory farming. This s…
Yay, more dependence on the people that are causing the problems to begin with!
I swear covid was a personality test. If you came out of the last 4 years and are looking for more dependence on government and pharma… well, the horseshoe is a V I guess.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#47I don’t want this to come out insensitive or from under the rock, but why is taking a drug a novel & cool idea (all of a sudden/recently) as opposed to good old fashioned working out and not eating more than what you need? okay, this drug is all kinds of great and it’s the next best thing since green grapes, still not eating more and workout is better than taking drugs that effect your brain right? Are doctors requir…
I want everyone who says this to submit a picture. Just wearing gym shorts, so we can get a good look. I assume nobody making this a moral issue will have so much as love handles. Because if they do, why aren't they working out harder and eating a bit less?
I've met plenty of skinny fat people who think they're healthy.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#48This article seems to frame things in such a strange way. Maybe instead of trying to get everyone obesity medication, we can instead educate society so we all understand nutrition and diet and can combat the ever-persistent forces of corporations pushing unhealthy food on us?
Educating people will hardly work. Bans on junk foods at government level might.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#49There's some evidence that Ozempic improves general impulse control, e.g decreasing alcohol consumption [0], which the article mentions. Also, as Tyler Cowen writes [1], this is probably going to translate into big improvements for animal welfare: > People lose weight on these drugs because they eat less, and eating less usually means eating less meat. And less meat consumption results in less factory farming. This s…
> big improvements for animal welfare Is it? It might reduce the amount of animals killed, sure, but it won't improve the well-being of the ones that are still raised.
While this entire chain of thought seems a bit far fetched, I think the reasoning here is that if you lower the demand for meat, you don’t have to resort to factory farming.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but the "unhealthy but not excessively caloric" diet is not a problem ozempic attempts to address. As far as I understand, it simply limits your appetite. Potentially one can go on ozempic, lose weight, and still end up eating unhealthily, because the resulting diet is made up of nutritionally poor foods.
And the argument you are replying to is that it's just covering up a symptom and not addressing the root problem holistically. Ozempic isn't a fix, it's a bandaid.
Sure, but so what? Until we can permanently change aspects of our brain, like our proclivity for addiction, then all interventions are bandaids on top of an underlying problem.
Even behavioral changes like avoiding fast food don't fix the underlying problem in your brain. It's topical.
It's amazing how the subject of Ozempic brings out such trivial claims uttered with a serious face.