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Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Re: Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Post by bryanlarsen »

philistine wrote: post #169
bryanlarsen wrote: post #141

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> based on wishful thinking of what you project Trump will do, it's all from your head, not from his words. Since we're off-topic already can I just emphasize this point? Pretty much everybody I know who has or will vote for Trump is like this. For example, I knew one guy who voted for Trump because he thought Trump would legalize marijuana.

Trump is all vibes, zero policy. The people working for him are zero vibes, all policy. With Trump being the complete reverse of a workaholic, his fours years in power ran on the wishes of his appointees. He was curtailed when in power. If Trump actually liked working and writing laws, he'd have probably legalized marijuana.

Trump's first term was basically another 4 more years of Bush. Without leadership from the top, his mostly Bush-era appointees kept doing what they did before.

His second term will be filled with fanatics rather than Bush-era appointees.

Re: Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Post by mppm »

mc32 wrote: post #152
mppm wrote: post #17

This is indeed a very timely award. I sometimes feel like the world has forgotten that nuclear weapons still exist and are still on hair-trigger alert to obliterate major cities. Maybe the end of atmospheric testing and the success of (now defunct) weapons reduction treaties has blunted public perception to the ongoing threat that they represent, and to the need to tread carefully where nuclear powers are involved.

Totally agree this is very relevant today. We have heads of state in the EU and to some degree people in the USG with very cavalier approaches to the ideological war between the West and the BRICS. I really don't know what the F* they are thinking but they keep pushing further and further and hope there is no elastic snap. It's like they forgot about diplomacy with enemies --at the height of the cold war, at its Apex…

I'm not sure why this got downvoted. The point is not to bow to Putin in all matters, but to treat the matter with extreme seriousness: Take time to do proper background research, evaluate your sources, give serious consideration to the Russian narrative -- without necessarily agreeing of course, allow for a margin of error both in your own judgement and for stray missiles entering the detection radius, etc. If it still seems like a good idea to take a stand afterwards, OK. But let's please not cause a nuclear war over Facebook likes and political brownie points.

Re: Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Post by addaon »

timeon wrote: post #90
dsign wrote: post #86

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>> I think it's one of the reasons we have to be self sustaining on other heavenly bodies. This is not a joke. But every time anybody brings it up a mob shows up saying that we must make it work here on Earth, and we should all go to hell if we can't. But we only need a few madmen in power for the rest of us to not matter.

Point is that if we can not behave on Earth how can we do it in other place.

> Point is that if we can not behave on Earth how can we do it in other place.

If we have a 90% chance of behaving in any given century, we are doomed on earth. If we have a 10% chance of behaving in any given century, a continuous heritage is possible in a galaxy (re-)populated by slowships.

Re: Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Post by wdr1 »

mppm wrote: post #17

This is indeed a very timely award. I sometimes feel like the world has forgotten that nuclear weapons still exist and are still on hair-trigger alert to obliterate major cities. Maybe the end of atmospheric testing and the success of (now defunct) weapons reduction treaties has blunted public perception to the ongoing threat that they represent, and to the need to tread carefully where nuclear powers are involved.

> I sometimes feel like the world has forgotten that nuclear weapons still exist

I don't understand this. Between Iran and the Russia/Ukraine conflict, they seem to be very top of mind for many.

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Post by jncfhnb »

kdhusakdjhsadkj wrote: post #164
jncfhnb wrote: post #82

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The risk is that if you start bombing Iranian nuclear facilities that they immediately start manufacturing a nuclear bomb.

and how exactly will they be able to do so without any nuclear facilities?

You cannot guarantee success on knocking them out. You cannot guarantee other countries won’t make the situation vastly more complicated.

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Post by seatac76 »

satvikpendem wrote: post #106

I recently went to the Hiroshima museum. I had originally thought that people simply vaporized when the bomb hit, but that is not the case. The museum shows how people's skin simply sloughed off and some were holding parts in their hands as they walked around to find their loved ones. But the worst part was radiation poisoning. Many that did not initially get hit and burned directly went towards the center of the cit…

I had a similar experience, looking at the contorted metal lunchboxes and other household items was more terrifying, I always used to think things just go poof.

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Post by bonzini »

philistine wrote: post #168
bonzini wrote: post #150

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> It's a spiral, the moment you allow a nuclear power to use that status to force the hand of an opposing nation at war you open a can of worms. Since 1945 the world has been trying to control proliferation through other means, wars of annexation have been shunned, you really don't want that to come back into a world armed with nuclear weapons. You also have an example of what happens when some countries are more pow…

Do not discount the veto at the UN of the UK and France. Part of the current situation with Israel rests on those two countries colluding with Israel for a war the other three did not want.

In the past yes, but right now UK and France have not used the veto for over 30 years; while the Biden administration (just because those are the numbers I found most easily) has already used it over ten times on Israel-Palestine relationships.

China also used it a lot more sparingly than Russia and the United States, I must say, but probably that's also because some China issues don't even reach the Security Council.

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Post by dang »

kdhusakdjhsadkj wrote: post #74

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Yes, this is a generic tangent—somewhere between generic and offtopic, actually—and certainly a flamewar tangent, so it is correctly flagged. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Post by dang »

roschdal wrote: post #8

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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