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So, no big reveal after all? Just another press conference where he once again says "it's coming soon"?
I didn't think he was going to unveil anything actually new, but I did honestly think he'd sing a new song about it all. I guess I overestimated him.
Classic bait and switch setup. Selling people the future in 2 years time with little to nothing to show for today. Timelines will slip, plans will change, software won‘t be ready, prices will change. And that doesn’t even account for where Waymo is in two years from now, or what the Chinese EV industry is able to pull off until then. Even this underwhelming event was originally announced on short notice to prop up pe…
US is raising import tax on Chinese EV (from 10% up to 38.1%) in EU to help us combat the climat change better. /s
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Oh yeah, look at all the terrible things Tesla has done, sell more EVs than everyone else, and make them for less cost, and include a good infotainment system in a car, what a terrible reality
Tesla doesn't sell more EVs than everyone else, BYD does.
BYD sold 131k in 2020, 321k in 2021, 911k in 2022, 1.6million in 2023, and in 2024 q1: 300k q2: 444k q3: 443k, total: 4.15 million
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Ignoring for a moment that three is still more than two, drivers in the US don't love it but its usually fine if you are respectful and have a reason, especially in an Uber or Lyft. Elsewhere its more common to sit up front or even considered rude not to. Regardless, I think your argument speaks to my point. Even if the cybertaxi compares similarly in capability to a traditional taxi, Tesla isn't positioning it as on…
It's literally named "Robo taxi ", plus what makes you think people want to give ownership so easily?
I'm not saying people won't want to own their own robocar, I'm saying this robocar is not particularly suited to ownership or to dedicated ridehailing or to really anything other than looking like a car Mr. Bladerunner from the hit movie Bladerunner would drive.
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From https://www.asomo.co/p/the-luddites-guide-to-defending-physi... : > As a thought experiment, imagine if all forms of transport except Uber were removed from our society, resulting in total ‘Uberfication’. What would happen in this ‘convenient’ society? > For a start, you’d notice that your entire ability to move depended on an institution. While the first few weeks of trips might not bug you, over time it would…
Yes and: That essay is a good start. Agree with all. However, it uses the frames (starting assumptions) of neoliberalism (markets solve everything) and public choice theory (solve politics with just so stories). Versus say humanism, dignity, sovereignty, and right to self-determination. What about fair and impartial adjudication of disputes, determining tort, and dispensing justice? These Big Bad vs Consumer framings…
Bought and paid for. Uber broke and ignored so many laws it was obvious the referees were on their side all along.
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You can see Musk's vision of that in Las Vegas: in tunnels (so it doesn't disturb "regular" motorists), but still using cars (what else?).
Cars driven by a human driver. He can't even to FSD in a 2.4 mile TUNNEL after years
It seems certain they’ll correct that with their massive expansion coming
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As I understand it, a car "recall" is a regulated action in the US, and that manufacturers must issue recalls in certain circumstances and that they bring with them various requirements. How that recall actually takes place, and whether it's just an OTA update, is an implementation detail that doesn't matter as much. I realise that does go against the customer perception of what a product recall entails in general. T…
You can argue semantics, but it’s not an implementation detail that doesn’t matter, it’s fundamentally misrepresenting the truth. A “recall” that does actually involve bringing the car in for service, a.k.a. recalling the car, is not accurately described as a “recall”. Words mean something. The NHTSA is being idiotic (unsurprisingly) in not distinguishing between a software update and a recall, because legacy auto do…
If a vehicle has a safety issue that needs to be fixed, regardless of hardware or software, it doesn't matter if you call it a recall or not. At the end of the day, it's still a fuckup on the part of the manufacturer that put their customers/drivers at risk, and the manufacturer needed to fix it.
Call it a "recall", call it a "patch", call it "The Sunshine and Rainbows Happy Time Update #12" - at the end of the day, Tesla made an oopsie that they need to resolve, and depending on what it is, could risk the lives of customers. The term you choose to describe it won't change the fact that they're fixing their mistake.
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Oh yeah, look at all the terrible things Tesla has done, sell more EVs than everyone else, and make them for less cost, and include a good infotainment system in a car, what a terrible reality
Yeah this place feels like Reddit right now. Hivemind takes left and right.
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Elon has almost no credibility left for what he says. It's basically just a website at the moment with bunch of 3D renders which you too could get done from a web shop. Tesla has nothing new to offer and competition is catching up, EV adoption slowing down and such. If I had, I would gradually drop Tesla stock because it's going to go downhill if not rock bottom from here.
Tesla at a forward P/E of 80 is massively overvalued as a car company. You can get Mercedes or BMW at a P/E of 6, with a 9% yield. Sure, the EV market is still growing, but Tesla is not the only player. All brands now have EVs, there are both cheaper and more luxurious Chinese EVs, that's some massive competition. The only reasons Tesla could be valued differently are FSD and Robotics, which Musk and Tesla-friendly a…
Maybe a bit of that but investors are more buying into Musk's past track record with Tesla and SpaceX which has been pretty good really.