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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by jaarse »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #15

Anybody know why the autonomous taxi isn't just a model 3? I don't see the point in a purpose built two seater with no steering wheel or pedals and I don't know why regulators would approve an autonomous car with no way to manually override it.

Because that isn’t different or new enough to get investors excited.

The point of this presentation was not to spell out technically how they are going to accomplish this. Agreed, a fleet of model 3s would work great.

The point of this presentation was to look like a cool visionary tech company that is going to change the world, to justify that your Market cap is now larger than EVERY OTHER MAJOR AUTOMAKER COMBINED!

Same reason the prototypes need to look like they were lifted from Blade Runner.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by marsten »

The most interesting thing to me by far was the lack of a steering wheel on the Robocab.

Without manual controls, vague promises ("puffery"?) about autonomy won't drive vehicle sales as they do today across all Tesla's models. The Robocab as shown literally cannot function (or make a dime of revenue) until they've fully solved autonomy and have convinced regulators of the same.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by bufferoverflow »

bagels wrote: post #158
lannisterstark wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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He also said the Roadster would fly with SpaceX thrusters. I think that was peak Musk.

"SpaceX package", not "SpaceX thrusters".

He was talking about compressed air thrusters to increase acceleration. It's a cool idea. Who knows, they might implement it.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by albertopv »

porphyra wrote: post #92
danpalmer wrote: post #55

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…

> one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be the operator reaping the benefits Elon said you will be able to buy a Cybercab for under $30,000 and individual owners will be able to "tend to [your robotaxi fleet] like a flock of sheep".

If you are still believing a word from that man you're delusional

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by maximinus_thrax »

porphyra wrote: post #39
projectileboy wrote: post #20

I feel like I’ve been looking at the same marketing slide deck for 10 years from these people. Wake me when they ship something.

Do you not see those driverless Cybercabs driving around without a steering wheel? At least that's a development that we haven't seen in the past 10 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRitZlhL3OQ - 6 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2aNJCsfrP0 - 10 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mITK3qaaHQ8 - 4 years ago

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by gorgoiler »

binarynate wrote: post #168

It's ironic that the example he gives for driving across LA already has a fast train connection: > People that live in LA, I mean try to get from Pasadena to El Segundo during rush hour. You can fly to another city faster than you get to crosstown LA. And you have to drive the whole way. You can take the Metro A line from Pasadena, then transfer to the C line to get to El Segundo. No driving necessary. Musk sells car…

The meme version of this would be:

Musk: Mom, can I have national infrastructure on which I can safely and reliably operate my semi autonomous vehicles?

Mom: We have infrastructure at home.

The Infrastructure: a rail network with communal seating, infrequent service, and a minimal set of fixed route options.

If, through the accidents of human history, we spend the next century repurposing highways as railroads for rubber tired carriages then I suppose that’s a good enough outcome. In the century after that maybe we’ll start to reclaim the highway land back, a la Dr Beeching’s shuttering of post war British railway infrastructure.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by bagels »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #173
bagels wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He also said the Roadster would fly with SpaceX thrusters. I think that was peak Musk.

"SpaceX package", not "SpaceX thrusters". He was talking about compressed air thrusters to increase acceleration. It's a cool idea. Who knows, they might implement it.

No, he said it would fly, he really did.

Edit: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289 SpaceX option package for new Tesla Roadster will include ~10 small rocket thrusters arranged seamlessly around car. These rocket engines dramatically improve acceleration, top speed, braking & cornering. Maybe they will even allow a Tesla to fly …

"Not saying the next gen Roadster special upgrade package will definitely enable it to fly short hops, but maybe …"

I didn't want to spend the time to find the video where the flying bit was said more explicitly.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by kombookcha »

BluSyn wrote: post #116
j7ake wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Autonomous cleaning? Good luck vacuuming all the nooks and crannies in a car.

They literally showed a clip of a robot cleaning the car in the announcement. Also perfect task for Optimus.

I straight up do not believe that Optimus is capable of vacuuming a car unassisted without damaging itself, the car or the hoover.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by justahuman74 »

binarynate wrote: post #168

It's ironic that the example he gives for driving across LA already has a fast train connection: > People that live in LA, I mean try to get from Pasadena to El Segundo during rush hour. You can fly to another city faster than you get to crosstown LA. And you have to drive the whole way. You can take the Metro A line from Pasadena, then transfer to the C line to get to El Segundo. No driving necessary. Musk sells car…

Trains are great

Unless you think LA should go London/NYC style and build a load of stations, there is still the problem of what to do if you're not near a station at the start or end. If it involves a bus connection, people will just drive

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