Great, just what we need. More TSLA “full self driving” cars on the road. Hope this is delayed by a decade. Tired of car centric transportation.
Tesla Robotaxi
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#153The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…
> Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone That’s untrue. He said Model 3s and Ys will be starting taxiing next year in California and Texas.
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#154Here's an idea - take the Robocab car design, strip out all the FSD/autopilot stuff, put in a steering wheel and dash and sell it starting at the end of the year for ~$25k. It would sell +++
This. If you have a robotaxi for under 30k, why not just sell the car for that much?
Tesla market cap is based on AI/robotaxi/FSD. Without that, they’re just playing catchup to BYD (who quietly, yet aggressively, executes at scale; they offer EVs today between $10k-$20k and already employ more workers than Toyota [for scale]).
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/cars/china-tesla-byd-competit...
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/03/chinas-byd-is-set-to-beat-te...
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/bev-sales-10-m...
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#155Here's an idea - take the Robocab car design, strip out all the FSD/autopilot stuff, put in a steering wheel and dash and sell it starting at the end of the year for ~$25k. It would sell +++
This. If you have a robotaxi for under 30k, why not just sell the car for that much?
Has he like ever met his promised price? If we go by almost every single other car he has released, The 30k robotaxi will be available for like 1 week on a stripped down tier (maybe like 25kwH battery?) or available off menu for like 6 months until it disappears and no one dares speak of it again.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I understand it, a car "recall" is a regulated action in the US, and that manufacturers must issue recalls in certain circumstances and that they bring with them various requirements. How that recall actually takes place, and whether it's just an OTA update, is an implementation detail that doesn't matter as much. I realise that does go against the customer perception of what a product recall entails in general. T…
You can argue semantics, but it’s not an implementation detail that doesn’t matter, it’s fundamentally misrepresenting the truth. A “recall” that does actually involve bringing the car in for service, a.k.a. recalling the car, is not accurately described as a “recall”. Words mean something. The NHTSA is being idiotic (unsurprisingly) in not distinguishing between a software update and a recall, because legacy auto do…
Aren't most recalls software updates now?
e.g. "Toyota is recalling over 42,000 Corolla Cross Hybrid SUVs from the 2023 and 2024 model years to fix a software error that may cause drivers to lose power braking assistance if they brake while turning a corner."
I don't know that it makes sense for the distinction between "recall" and "not a recall" to be whether the software update can happen OTA or not.
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah and making 50 new cars that drive around is a lot harder than making a one-off prototype.
Wow, great! They put motors and wheels on a chassis with a screen and hardcoded them to drive in a loop. So impressive.
The demo is open to the eventgoers and lets you choose your destination. It's quite polished and a lot more advanced than "hardcoding to drive in a loop".
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone That’s untrue. He said Model 3s and Ys will be starting taxiing next year in California and Texas.
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He also said the Roadster would fly with SpaceX thrusters. I think that was peak Musk.
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#159The RoboTaxi looks neat, but I don't get why it only seats 2 rather than just updating the Model 3? What's the utility of an entirely new production line for a car that is less flexible than the existing model that's built at scale?
Graphic on Twitter says that ~90% of car trips consist of 1-2 people.
That's a huge amount of capex to spend for a low marginal cost though.
Re: Tesla Robotaxi
#160Here's an idea - take the Robocab car design, strip out all the FSD/autopilot stuff, put in a steering wheel and dash and sell it starting at the end of the year for ~$25k. It would sell +++
It would need a NACS port. Otherwise it would be a rather expensive brick.
I think it has one but techcrunch/verge bloggers heard inductive charging and leapt into assuming thats the only way to charge