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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by huijzer »

danpalmer wrote: post #55

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…

> Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone

That’s untrue. He said Model 3s and Ys will be starting taxiing next year in California and Texas.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by agildehaus »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #78
bagels wrote: post #59

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You close the door yourself, and open it yourself. I was horrified to discover this.

What?? What if you don’t close it and just leave? I mean this will happen.

Their cars currently produce an audible request to close the doors. In practice it doesn't happen often, I've never seen it happen in person. They also have support just minutes away usually.

The Zeekr vehicle they're testing now, and presumably the Hyundai they're starting to develop, will have self-closing doors.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by [deleted] »

huijzer wrote: post #141
danpalmer wrote: post #55

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…

> Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone That’s untrue. He said Model 3s and Ys will be starting taxiing next year in California and Texas.

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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by iknowstuff »

tsimionescu wrote: post #88
mgiannopoulos wrote: post #85

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Uber drivers already drive Teslas with FSD. Today.

The promise was that you'd buy a Model 3 to use as your personal car, and then run it as a robotaxi while you're at work, and the taxi money would pay you back for the car within a year. FSD is nowhere near up to that task, neither technically nor legally. And the new info from this presentation is that it is, of course, never going to be: this was an indirect admission that the Model 3 was sold with fraudulent adver…

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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by matsemann »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #45
fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #37

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I use it every day, but HN says it doesn’t work

Exactly. I wish people actually used it instead of reading biased news about it. Driving is so much stress free with it now.

Saw a Tesla swerve into the bike lane yesterday while driver was on the phone.

Driver probably felt safe and that everything was in order. The cyclists not so much.

Point is it's a matter of perspective. How many around you have to accommodate?

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by jaarse »

ericd wrote: post #135
jaarse wrote: post #105

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As a Tesla owner I can promise you there will never be reasonable human assistance infrastructure. Have to ever tried to get in touch with a human at Tesla short of driving to a service center. Almost impossible. It would be easier for me to get the president on the line. Having just purchased a new Tesla, I tried for 2 weeks to communicate with Tesla prior to purchase. The closest I even got was a phone tree, which…

Dang, that's not been my experience at all. I've had them come out 3x for tire repair (construction site alongside our commute), and they've always come out to to my house to fix the tire in my garage, same day, after a couple of back and forths via text. I've never had a better car maintenance experience. That said, I don't think they want to talk with you pre-purchase outside of one of their showrooms, and the show…

When did you last have them come out? They used to be awesome, but cut the mobile fleet in my area as part of the cost saving measures this past July.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by _9omd »

TrainedMonkey wrote: post #79
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #15

Anybody know why the autonomous taxi isn't just a model 3? I don't see the point in a purpose built two seater with no steering wheel or pedals and I don't know why regulators would approve an autonomous car with no way to manually override it.

I have no first hand knowledge here, but thinking from first principles. From Robotaxi fleet perspective you want autonomous maintenance, cleaning, charging, and lowest cost. From Robotaxi user perspective you want climate / music / entertaiment / safety. So the idea for robot taxi is that it should be better than model 3 in some or all of those dimensions. Now speculating for the moment, from Elon perspective you pr…

Yes, I think you're spot on. They showed a video of a robot arm cleaning the car's inside, and it appears the vertical opening doors make that kind of access easier. The car will also have wireless charging, which makes that easier to automate as well.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by tbruckner »

porphyra wrote: post #92
danpalmer wrote: post #55

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…

> one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be the operator reaping the benefits Elon said you will be able to buy a Cybercab for under $30,000 and individual owners will be able to "tend to [your robotaxi fleet] like a flock of sheep".

And Elon is a guy that knows how to tend to flocks of sheep(le)

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by lannisterstark »

huijzer wrote: post #141
danpalmer wrote: post #55

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…

> Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone That’s untrue. He said Model 3s and Ys will be starting taxiing next year in California and Texas.

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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by saturn8601 »

Animats wrote: post #91
pcbro141 wrote: post #60

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You just close the door when you exit the Waymo lol.

The next generation of Waymo vehicles, based on the Hyundai Ioniq 5, will have powered doors.[1] [1] https://waymo.com/blog/2024/10/waymo-and-hyundai-enter-partn...

I've heard in the past that the OEMs don't want to be relegated to being just some whitebox manufacturer so many of them have been very cold (in receptiveness) to working with Waymo. Probably explains the terrible selection of vehicles they have used, Chrysler Pacifica minivan, Jaguar i-Pace, the ionic 5 was surprising since I suspected the others were just OEMs offloading their turds onto Waymo and telling them to take a hike. Maybe Hyundai is getting something good in exchange.
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