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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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They haven’t even gotten self driving working with driver still at the wheel, how are they supposed to convince us that they can do fully autonomous?

I use it every day, but HN says it doesn’t work

How many disengagements per thousand miles? By all accounts, it's still far behind where Waymo was 10 years ago.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

#82
post #14

They haven’t even gotten self driving working with driver still at the wheel, how are they supposed to convince us that they can do fully autonomous?

I use it every day, but HN says it doesn’t work

I also have a 2024 Tesla with FSD, but stopped trusting it. Here’s the thing, it works great for 30-40 minutes, until it doesn’t and makes a completely wrong move almost causing an accident without user intervention. And yes, I’m talking about v12.5.1

In the last month, it’s driven onto grass where there used to be an off ramp that was redone last year, cut across 3 lanes of highway traffic within 200 feet of an off ramp, and almost ran a semi truck off the road (yes, we had the right of way, but he weighs 20,000 lbs and was in no way going to be able to stop in time).

It a cool toy to show off when you’re being hyper vigilant about keeping an eye on it, but there is no way it should be allowed on the public roads yet.

I 1000% would advise against purchasing it unless you have the extra cash and want to try it out. It’s not even close to production ready.

Edit: spelling

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

#83
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You close the door yourself, and open it yourself. I was horrified to discover this.

What?? What if you don’t close it and just leave? I mean this will happen.

In San Francisco? You're probably liable for all the property damage that happens next. I wasn't brave enough to find out.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

#84

It’s unfortunate comment sections for stuff like this can’t be genuine curious conversation

There's only so many times you can have genuine curious conversation for the same promise. Musk has been holding this presentation, with very small variations, for 6-10 years now. The first 5 times, sure, plenty of curious conversation. But after some time you have to start calling a fraud a fraud.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

#85

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…

Uber drivers already drive Teslas with FSD. Today.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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I use it every day, but HN says it doesn’t work

Exactly. I wish people actually used it instead of reading biased news about it. Driving is so much stress free with it now.

I disagree completely. Letting it drive is the exact same as teaching my 16 year old kid to drive. It’s nice to let them take the wheel, but you never know when there going to make a mistake and almost crash into traffic.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

#88

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be…

Uber drivers already drive Teslas with FSD. Today.

The promise was that you'd buy a Model 3 to use as your personal car, and then run it as a robotaxi while you're at work, and the taxi money would pay you back for the car within a year. FSD is nowhere near up to that task, neither technically nor legally. And the new info from this presentation is that it is, of course, never going to be: this was an indirect admission that the Model 3 was sold with fraudulent advertising by the then-CEO himself.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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post #82

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I use it every day, but HN says it doesn’t work

I also have a 2024 Tesla with FSD, but stopped trusting it. Here’s the thing, it works great for 30-40 minutes, until it doesn’t and makes a completely wrong move almost causing an accident without user intervention. And yes, I’m talking about v12.5.1 In the last month, it’s driven onto grass where there used to be an off ramp that was redone last year, cut across 3 lanes of highway traffic within 200 feet of an off…

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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

#90

Anybody know why the autonomous taxi isn't just a model 3? I don't see the point in a purpose built two seater with no steering wheel or pedals and I don't know why regulators would approve an autonomous car with no way to manually override it.

I have no first hand knowledge here, but thinking from first principles. From Robotaxi fleet perspective you want autonomous maintenance, cleaning, charging, and lowest cost. From Robotaxi user perspective you want climate / music / entertaiment / safety. So the idea for robot taxi is that it should be better than model 3 in some or all of those dimensions. Now speculating for the moment, from Elon perspective you pr…

Autonomous cleaning? Good luck vacuuming all the nooks and crannies in a car.
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