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The funny thing about this was that Rocket League was native on Linux and Psyonix removed Linux support.

Epic bought them, moved it to the Epic Store which has no Linux support. Makes sense to drop it.

supporting Epic is one of the most shooting-yourself-in-the-foot moves you can make as a gamer.

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Well, I got Monado and libsurvive running some time ago (Valve Index, X11, Nvidia), even for Beat Saber. It sadly was unplayable, because reflections were wrong in VR apps, it felt like both eyes using the same reflection angle instead of adjusting it to each eye. For close objects this was bearable, anything further away would look "wrong" and cause VR sickness. Also the FoV was wrong, it felt like a vignette around…

I don't understand why Valve of all companies isn't supporting Linux here.

My guess is they focus on Proton for Steam Deck, which can not run VR comfortably (but, it can run it via USB-C docks/dongles, the power of a full Linux PC!). So we get constantly better Proton compatibility, including work on anti cheats, but VR is low to no priority. The market is pretty small, especially if you mostly worry about Index and related PC-tethered headsets. Also developing VR for Linux can't be an easy task.

I am especially annoyed that they more or less dropped the ball when it comes to Beat Saber via Proton. Beat Saber was an official launch title for Proton, but was unplayable for months [1].

[1] https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/6638

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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I'm not a windows user myself, but I'm curious what you windows users think about this.

I imagine you'll have trouble trying to find someone around here that's using Windows because they like it. People use Windows because they're forced to, and that's why Microsoft knows they can take full advantage of that and abuse their prisoners.

I can't believe the EU is wasting all this time on making it so you can... uninstall the camera app on your iPhone? Even the worst parts of iOS are so much less egregious than every interaction I have with Windows. At least people have the option to not use an iPhone. With Windows, people literally don't have alternatives. Their business' accounting software, or whatever domain-specific program is on there and has no plans of getting ported anywhere else.

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Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

Not directed at you but I find it funny that people (rightfully!) complain about Microsoft spyware and then run some dubious scripts from who-knows-where. With the added side effects that these scripts always disable/remove waaaay too much and break the install which then lead to users cursing Microsoft for things that the user has broken without knowing.

key difference being - copilot and recall were added to my operating system without my consent - microsoft did not ask before they added these things, via windows update.

those dubious scripts from who-knows-where are run by me, with intent and with my consent, having passed whatever my own personal review process might be for that particular script.

If I try something and it turns out bad, that's on me, and I'm okay with that. If something is done to me without my knowledge or consent and it turns out bad, then that's a different story.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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I don't understand why Valve of all companies isn't supporting Linux here.

My guess is they focus on Proton for Steam Deck, which can not run VR comfortably (but, it can run it via USB-C docks/dongles, the power of a full Linux PC!). So we get constantly better Proton compatibility, including work on anti cheats, but VR is low to no priority. The market is pretty small, especially if you mostly worry about Index and related PC-tethered headsets. Also developing VR for Linux can't be an easy…

Well, or someone could create a cardboard like holder for the Steam Deck! ;)

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Which is equally bad. Why am I wasting CPU power on that?

It sounds like an unnecessary security nightmare. Someone will figure out how to tap into this.

I think someone quickly realized it was all being stored in an unencrypted database on the machine when the first version launched, so anyone with direct access can just list through the whole thing.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Despite lots of good info here, it's devolved into yet another "just switch to Linux" thread. Sigh.

I wish people would just switch to Linux so they’d shut up about it. I use Linux every day, I love it, but it is a community project with rough edges and no customer service. Pretty small rough edges nowadays. But they are still there, and there’s no customer service. Always happy to see people join Linux, but slightly confused at the folks advertising it. Are they implicitly signing up to be the customer service for…

>Are they implicitly signing up to be the customer service for these folks who are used to an OS-as-a-product type setup?

I mean first off, yes most people using Linux have no problem with helping people out, my guess is linux users are probably 100x more active on support platforms than anyone else. (if not more)

But also, who on earth has Microsoft customer service? Big businesses sure, but do you think most Windows users get customer support, big tech companies stopped connecting you to a human being like ten years ago. Everyone just googles when something breaks no matter the OS. I'm just so tired of the meme that there is any meaningful difference at this point. I've been using stock Ubuntu Desktop for 12(?) years, out of the box, no weird tinkering.

Do you know how often friends and family call me because something broke on their Windows machine and I'm the "tech guy"? This is the experience of every programmer I know. What difference does it make if they run Linux, yes stuff will break but we've been fixing stuff breaking anyway.

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An OpenAI model running locally, not sending data to OpenAI? Similar to how llama3 can be run locally? Yeah, you'll have to bring some sources for me to begin buying that. It goes totally against everything Microsoft and OpenAI have been pushing.

What makes you say that it uses OpenAI models? From what I understand right now it only has search functionality, which could be easily done with a local embedding model (similar to the open-weights CLIP) and possibly OCR.

No need for OCR as it has access to the compositor as they explained at the Build conference.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

I find desktop Ubuntu to be reasonably close to the Windows 7 experience, which was when Windows peaked in my opinion.

I find Gnome on stock Ubuntu pretty terrible for someone used to Windows, since workflows are different and you can't adjust anything.

KDE and Kubuntu are pretty close though. I'd never really considered fully switching to Linux a usable option before I found it, but I've been running it for a few years on my laptop and recently on my work pc, and once Win10 is EoL it'll probably be the only thing I still run on the rest of my machines. The nice side effect of bloated Electron apps is that at least now most things work on all platforms lmao.

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