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Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by sunaookami »

brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

Not directed at you but I find it funny that people (rightfully!) complain about Microsoft spyware and then run some dubious scripts from who-knows-where. With the added side effects that these scripts always disable/remove waaaay too much and break the install which then lead to users cursing Microsoft for things that the user has broken without knowing.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#52

Post by thomasahle »

For those who don't know, Microsoft Recall is a system that screenshots what you do every few seconds, and uses OpenAI's vision api to allow search on eveything you did in the past.

There's an article from Sep 27th where they promise you'll be able to uninstall Recall: https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/27/24255721/microsoft-window... , not sure what that means for this explorer.exe dependency.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#53

Post by lostmsu »

thomasahle wrote: post #52

For those who don't know, Microsoft Recall is a system that screenshots what you do every few seconds, and uses OpenAI's vision api to allow search on eveything you did in the past. There's an article from Sep 27th where they promise you'll be able to uninstall Recall: https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/27/24255721/microsoft-window... , not sure what that means for this explorer.exe dependency.

It supposed to be local.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#54

Post by Kenji »

swatcoder wrote: post #44
BadHumans wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you consider replacing the Adobe suite with other products?

For many graphics professionals, that's like asking if you'd consider replacing C++ with Rust. There's one answer you might provide when you've the luxury to start things over and ramp up on all the differences, but practical reality is that you rarely have that luxury. Fluency and confidence in the tools you already use provides strong resistance to switching, even if alternatives promise they're ready to meet your…

> For many graphics professionals, that's like asking if you'd consider replacing C++ with Rust.

So, that's a yes?

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#55

Post by csdreamer7 »

imbusy111 wrote: post #28
kelsey98765431 wrote: post #2

Proton is able to run just about anything now, not just games. Stop using Microsoft Operating Systems where you can and mark them as needing replacement with real software in all your reports.

From my experience, it's still not a 100% replacement. For example, there are no drivers for a pretty common steering wheel (Logitech G923). There is a driver for an older version of the wheel that kind of works, but no TRUEFORCE support. And even then, you have to mess with some low level details to make it work, send magic values to the hardware on plugging it in. I also noticed that games from Steam end up taking…

> For example, there are no drivers for a pretty common steering wheel (Logitech G923).

This is a nice, specific detail. Most of these comments are very vague.

> There is a driver for an older version of the wheel that kind of works

Do you mean an out of tree driver?

Would you test this and post back? The 6.3 kernel they mentioned 3 months ago is very old and likely a forked kernel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/vb0b37/g29g92...

I am new to steering wheels-not sure if this is the exact version because they mention xbox)? Try a distro with a very recent kernel (6.11; like Nobara for a gaming focused distro).

> I also noticed that games from Steam end up taking up substantially more disk space to the point where I can have only a few games installed on Linux.

Shouldn't be substantially more disk space. Would you provide stats?

Proton makes a Windows environment for each game as it installs those 3rd party libraries in the environment and that is used for disk calculations, while on Windows those libraries may be installed directly to the OS. Each 3rd party library and the shader cache is stored separately. This is my guess-I do not work on Proton.

> And even the games without any special hardware dongles don't work so well as you imply.

Anticheat and a few obscure Windows libraries are an issue. River City Girls needs some media foundation library or it does not show cutscenes. Valve is working on them.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#56

Post by pmontra »

sunaookami wrote: post #51
brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

Not directed at you but I find it funny that people (rightfully!) complain about Microsoft spyware and then run some dubious scripts from who-knows-where. With the added side effects that these scripts always disable/remove waaaay too much and break the install which then lead to users cursing Microsoft for things that the user has broken without knowing.

Ultimately it's Microsoft not giving those users what they want. They have to accommodate the OS to fit their needs and sometimes it breaks.

It should be technically easy for Microsoft to decouple Recall from Explorer. I already saw this in the 90s with their web browser, coupled to the OS for purely commercial reasons.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#57

Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

BadHumans wrote: post #20
lpapez wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day when I can play Rocket League under Linux without anti-cheat kicking in is when I will stop using it completely. Until then, I am dual booting.

The funny thing about this was that Rocket League was native on Linux and Psyonix removed Linux support.

Epic bought them, moved it to the Epic Store which has no Linux support. Makes sense to drop it.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by delusional »

sunaookami wrote: post #51
brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

Not directed at you but I find it funny that people (rightfully!) complain about Microsoft spyware and then run some dubious scripts from who-knows-where. With the added side effects that these scripts always disable/remove waaaay too much and break the install which then lead to users cursing Microsoft for things that the user has broken without knowing.

I think it's a pretty damning condemnation of Microsoft's current product strategy, at least in relation to the user segment that visits hacker news.

People are willing to run highly privileged untrusted and unverified code in the personal computers, just for a chance to remove the stuff you're actively spending money and time developing.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#60

Post by noncoml »

I thought I make a generic reply instead of replying at every comment below:

People don't use Windows over Linux because they prefer the Windows environment/experience. They use it because of the applications, and to some degree the drivers, that are not available in Linux.

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