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Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by School-Cotton »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #55
imbusy111 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my experience, it's still not a 100% replacement. For example, there are no drivers for a pretty common steering wheel (Logitech G923). There is a driver for an older version of the wheel that kind of works, but no TRUEFORCE support. And even then, you have to mess with some low level details to make it work, send magic values to the hardware on plugging it in. I also noticed that games from Steam end up taking…

> For example, there are no drivers for a pretty common steering wheel (Logitech G923). This is a nice, specific detail. Most of these comments are very vague. > There is a driver for an older version of the wheel that kind of works Do you mean an out of tree driver? Would you test this and post back? The 6.3 kernel they mentioned 3 months ago is very old and likely a forked kernel. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gam…

Anticheat is not some minor detail, lots of popular competitive games require it.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by kibwen »

brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

> I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

Remember when the retort from Windows users against Linux was "Linux is only free if your time has no value?"

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by sergers »

miles wrote: post #87
Technetium wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

O&O ShutUp10++ is a requirement for me. It is my preference because every debloat script tends to legitimately break the OS. I have had to do clean installs multiple times this year after customers ran them. MS provides registry keys that can be configured, but they do consistently move them around. Without an application which can easily revert automated changes, it'd be nearly impossible to keep track of it all, le…

> LTSC would be better, but there's no reasonably legal way to obtain it I looked into it in 2018; turned out to be pretty easy and reasonable (~$300): https://tinyapps.org/blog/201811300700_windows_10_ltsc.html

You can buy the licenses https://www.cdw.com/product/windows-11-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2...

Ms just finally released the installation media for ltsc win11

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

#104

Post by thegeekpirate »

lpapez wrote: post #10
kelsey98765431 wrote: post #2

Proton is able to run just about anything now, not just games. Stop using Microsoft Operating Systems where you can and mark them as needing replacement with real software in all your reports.

The day when I can play Rocket League under Linux without anti-cheat kicking in is when I will stop using it completely. Until then, I am dual booting.

Better say your last goodbyes in that case, as it's always worked perfectly =b

Riot's Vanguard on the other hand, has unfortunately made it impossible to play LoL =c

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by ballenf »

brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

I downgraded a laptop to Win10. Is there any reason to go to 11 before EOL for 10?

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by wpm »

sunaookami wrote: post #51
brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

Not directed at you but I find it funny that people (rightfully!) complain about Microsoft spyware and then run some dubious scripts from who-knows-where. With the added side effects that these scripts always disable/remove waaaay too much and break the install which then lead to users cursing Microsoft for things that the user has broken without knowing.

What would get disabled that "breaks the install"

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by zamalek »

SunlitCat wrote: post #35
kelsey98765431 wrote: post #2

Proton is able to run just about anything now, not just games. Stop using Microsoft Operating Systems where you can and mark them as needing replacement with real software in all your reports.

Maybe anyone can chime in about VR support under Linux? That's a huge show stopper for me at the moment and holding me back from switching over to Linux.

Valve Index. I currently dual-boot Windows for VR. This is the rabbit hole I went down (to be clear: SteamVR, specifically the compositor, is completely broken).

1. Install Monado with libsurvive.

2. Discover that libsurvive doesn't have the "smarts" that SteamVR has, and that calibration can be wonky (and was wonky for me).

3. Learn that you can import SteamVR calibration data. I can't do this in Linux because, well, SteamVR doesn't work.

4. Dual boot Windows with the intention to copy over calibration data.

5. Windows is installed. Give up and dual boot.

https://monado.freedesktop.org/libsurvive.html

If anyone else has had success, I would love to hear about it.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by kibwen »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #12

Every single day I am given more reasons never to use Windows again. Glad I moved to Linux early this year. My next desktop will likely be a System76 to ensure Microsoft doesn't get a cut from my next purchase, and it supports a business that supports Linux.

Same, I'll be damned if I tolerate ads in my OS. I can confirm that PopOS from System76 is lovely, it just works and I don't need to think about it.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by OptionOfT »

brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

One of the things I've been trying to do since the advent of Windows 11 is ... get rid of 'Recommendations' on the Start Menu. It gives me the creeps to see stuff pop up there.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/client-management/...

Whatever you do, the GPO / Registry key doesn't work on Non-Education / SE systems.

If you apply it on an Education version, the StartMenuShellExperienceHost (you may need to shuffle those words around) will read the settings. Nothing on my Workstation version.

Now, it MIGHT work if you push it through MDM, but MDMs cost money, and I haven't been able to find a self-hostable MDM that is up to date.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by RajT88 »

zamalek wrote: post #91
brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

> disable all these modern features of Windows 11 Being a dependency of explorer.exe implies that it can't be disabled. To explain further: explorer.exe is responsible for your task bar, start menu, etc.

I thought for sure somebody was complaining about explorer.exe not loading if it cannot find recall.DLL or something.

The thread describes a much more minimal kind of dependency. More like the dark pattern variety which is hard to turn off.

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