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Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

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Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

#671

What bizarre choice. Hinton’s work has nothing to do with physics. Nobel prize jumping on the bandwagon, just like they did for mRNA after covid. At least that was related to medicine. The first 2 paragraphs of the linked pdf read like a joke. Like it’s a parody announcement.

> Hinton’s work has nothing to do with physics.

Nor did Jack Kilby's invention of the IC, but they still gave it to him.

You could probably argue the same for the invention of the transistor...

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

#672

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So do telescopes. Has anyone every won a Nobel for a telescope?

People have won it over new microscope designs and techniques.. possibly telescopes, too.. but I'm less familiar with that and not somewhere where it's convenient to look it up.

In 1986 and 2014, science (electron optics, nanoscopy/nanolasers) came first. Then the microscopy. Even 2017 won for 3D microscopy. What Nobel-worthy physics does thing do?

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

#673

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was probably considered since he is mentioned in the reasoning paper, still it could be one of those unfortunate omissions in the nobel history since those deciding the prize might have a hard time to measure impact.

Then they shouldn't be trusted to give awards in an area they are not experts in.

Impact is hard to quantify. There have been several occasions where someone who very well deserved a Nobel prize didn't get one. There are all kinds of reasons. Given he is mentioned in the reasoning he was probably considered. We can't know the reason he did not get the prize.

I recently watched this quite video on the subject: https://youtu.be/zS7sJJB7BUI?feature=shared and found it quite enjoyable.

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

#674

Here is the reasoning: https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2024/09/advanced-physicsp... I'm surprised Terry Sejnowski isn't included, considering it seems to be for Hopfield Nets and Boltzmann machines, where Terry played a large role in the latter.

Second time he gets overlooked (after turing award)

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

#676
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Because you can use money to do things? Even if you don't want private property after AGI, you need it now.

Believing that you can do a better job of allocating your Nobel prize money than a central authority is free-market thinking. If he’s a socialist, he should donate all his property to the government, including the entire prize money.

Isn't the standard AI doom position that the government taking control just kills everyone a few years later? The money would be for research, not welfare or whatever the government would use it for.

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

#677

I wonder if they ever gave a Physics Nobel to a person who held a patent! People like Graham Bell never got recognized by the Nobel people. I get the impression that Physics Nobel prizes were more or less given only to University professors. They didnt seem to particularly care for people with grease on their hands

Philipp Lenard had a patent on cathode ray tubes, Marconi on wireless telegraphy, Dalén had plenty of patents on the automatic lighthouse regulator he got the prize for, and many others.

You can continue looking yourself: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/lists/all-nobel-prizes-in-...

Or maybe you can ask ChatGPT for a better summary?

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

#679

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was probably considered since he is mentioned in the reasoning paper, still it could be one of those unfortunate omissions in the nobel history since those deciding the prize might have a hard time to measure impact.

Then they shouldn't be trusted to give awards in an area they are not experts in.

Shouldn't be trusted? They are a random swedish foundation. How is one going to change that? Or disallow it or what you want.
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