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Hinton already won a Turing award, so this Nobel just seems doubly absurd. I hope he turns it down, but it's a monetary prize too and it takes a lot of dedication to science to turn it down.
Isn’t he a socialist?
Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]
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#552I strongly suspect consciousness will be the next great paradigm in physics, following electrodynamics, quantum mechanics, and general relativity, now that the ‘detour’ of string theory is mostly behind us. Some, like Penrose, are already thinking about it but too late in their careers to make any breakthroughs. Machine learning research is the logical entry point as the ‘particle physics’ of cognition and consciousn…
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#553In any case, I'm anticipating a long blog post from Schmidhuber about this soon.
Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]
#554I strongly suspect consciousness will be the next great paradigm in physics, following electrodynamics, quantum mechanics, and general relativity, now that the ‘detour’ of string theory is mostly behind us. Some, like Penrose, are already thinking about it but too late in their careers to make any breakthroughs. Machine learning research is the logical entry point as the ‘particle physics’ of cognition and consciousn…
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#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> Laypeople needs a simple way to know who's who in advanced research fields, without Nobel prices (or any other commitee) we don't get to have that. I think first you're underestimating "laypeople" which seems to include many scientists who are not physicists, and second you are forgetting that many of the scientists the "lay" public knows as the greatest of all times never received a Nobel, or any other famous pri…
Do laypeople know Kepler?
Where I live, in my estimation the 'educated "lay" public' would probably have heard of all the names mentioned, but with even worse notions of what their actual contributions were for Kepler.
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#557Just watched the nobel prize live stream, surprised by the topic, looks very engineering to me rather than physics, do algorithms make physics subsidiary?
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I am really surprised. I would have guessed that a Nobel Prize would be awarded to advancements in the field itself. Not for inspirations from it or to tools that led to advancements. Although as I write this I'm sure there have been several prizes awarded to scientists / engineers who have developed tools to advance physics. Like radio astronomy? Still surprised though.
Some other recent cases of the prize being given to an engineering contribution: - 2018 was for chirped pulse amplification, which is most commonly used in medicine (LASIK surgery for example) - 2014 was for basically for LED lights - 2010 was for a method for producing graphene - 2009 was for both charge-coupled device, which is a component for digital imaging (including regular consumer digital cameras), and fibre-…
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#559Looking forward to Hinton receiving a Fields Medal for inventing backpropagation.
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It still kind of baffles me that there isn't a Nobel Prize in Mathematics and/or computer science. The latter makes a bit more sense, computer science wasn't really a thing when Alfred Nobel was around, but mathematics certainly was! It seems like it would be perfectly reasonable to add a category for math, and I think Neural Nets would fit in there considerably better.
The Swedish central bank later added the price in economics (although controversial). So other things can be amended. However, I suspect we won't see any more amendments to the noble price. A different institution can step up and make a price on its own, though I'm not sure what institution would have that amount of prestige without weaponizing it for commercial purposes. I prefer a nicer price for mathematics that i…