Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

Post by moelf » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 12:55 PM UTC

seanhunter wrote: post #334

moelf wrote: post #230

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it already had, bottom-quark tagging has improved O(10)x in efficiency in the last decade without any new "physics" understanding, just from training with more low-level data and better ML arch (now using Transformers) but we haven't found new physics with or without ML, making this prize a little weird.

I sort of agree in principle but in practise they've always taken a broad view. Kissinger was one of the most prominent disrupters of world peace in the postwar era but that didn't stop him winning the peace prize. Churchill won the literature prize for defeating Hitler. The blue led guys a few years back didn't do much except make a thing that would go on every single consumer gadget and disrupt my sleep but they wo…

Post by jprete » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 12:55 PM UTC

astura wrote: post #292

throw_m239339 wrote: post #263

Congrats to the laureates! Maybe a Computing prize should be created though, like Nobel did not create the "nobel prize of economy".Though you could argue that Computing is Math? What are computer scientists usually awarded with? edit: s/rewarded/awarded

>What are computer scientists usually rewarded with? The Turing Award is considered by most to be the highest award in computer science.

Post by sorenjan » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 12:56 PM UTC

mjburgess wrote: post #85

I've always sided with Feynman on this, and this proves him right: wtf do these people think they are appointing themselves fit to hand out trinkets and baubles on behalf of global scientific achievement? It brings the award into disrepute, or at least in a Feynman way, exposes the inherent disreputability of awards themselves: who are they to award such a prize on behalf of physics? Awards committees: self-serving s…

Post by archmutant » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 12:57 PM UTC

selimthegrim wrote: post #119

nabla9 wrote: post #79

Most commenters here don't know that Boltzmann machines and associative memories existed in condensed matter physics long before they were used in cognitive science or AI. The Sherrington–Kirkpatrick model of spin glass is a Hopfield network with random initialization. Boltzmann machine is Sherrington–Kirkpatrick model with external field. This is price in physics given to novel use of stochastic spin-glass modelling…

Also double descent was discovered already by physicists in 80s-90s

Post by dagw » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 12:57 PM UTC

frob wrote: post #335

llm_trw wrote: post #318

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Kissinger another.

Also Barack Obama. It's hard to be POTUS without commiting war crimes.