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Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

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That's different local prize by the American society of civil engineers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Noble_Prize

Yes. That's the joke.

[party pooping] It would have been better delivery if you said "a Nobel prize" instead of "the".

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

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I suppose LeCun and Bengio are way too young for a Nobel prize these days[0] [0] https://www.ageing.ox.ac.uk/images/fig01.jpeg

That is a really strange plot. It looks like they are fitting a really high order polynomial to what is more or less a linear or maybe quadratic trend. And the overfitting exaggerates the recent trend.

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And who are the Oscar’s to give out awards to movies? You can hand out the MJBurgess awards for non-NN-related physics today!

Even though the many of the Oscars nowadays feel rigged (with full lobbying arms from the studios behind them), my understanding was that the "Academy" (from the Academy Awards) consists mostly of your fellow filmmakers. So it is an honor bestowed by your peers, the ones who would most appreciate the quality of the work and the work that went into it.

It does look like the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences is mostly professors: https://www.kva.se/en/about-us/members/list-of-academy-membe...

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]

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Here is the reasoning: https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2024/09/advanced-physicsp... I'm surprised Terry Sejnowski isn't included, considering it seems to be for Hopfield Nets and Boltzmann machines, where Terry played a large role in the latter.

He was probably considered since he is mentioned in the reasoning paper, still it could be one of those unfortunate omissions in the nobel history since those deciding the prize might have a hard time to measure impact.

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> Hinton was never going to win the Nobel Prize while working for Google, right? This conspiracy theory makes no sense. Nobel prizes are awarded based on someone's life's work.

I think calling it a conspiracy theory is a bit of a stretch. I could be wrong. I agree that's how it should be. But I don't get the impression there are lot of fans of Google in the Prize Committee. Either way, it's not something that matters too much. Just a thought.

> I think calling it a conspiracy theory is a bit of a stretch.

It's the textbook definition of a conspiracy theory, isn't it? I mean, a group conspiring to not awarding the most prestigious prize in science to someone who deserved it because of who their employer was, and suddenly awarding it once he switched employers?

> But I don't get the impression there are lot of fans of Google in the Prize Committee.

This is a conspiracy-oriented line of reasoning. Who anyone's employer was is something that never surfaced when discussing Nobel prizes. Suddenly it became the basis of a theory on how people conspired to first not award it and afterwards award it, and somehow the guy's accomplishments don't even register in the discussion.

That's what these conspiracy theories bring to the table.

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Naturally she's not happy https://x.com/skdh/status/1843592351736050053

Could you copy and paste her post in here? I'm brazilian and our STF overlords have decided that we shall not access twitter anymore

The other comment (sibling of the one you replied to) already quoted the entire tweet. (Yes it's short and snarky.)

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Was just listening to a live radio interview with Hinton finding him in a small hotel room in California somewhere quite flabbergasted at the news. Interviewer all happy for him etc, but when delving more into what it was for he started to go off on AI concerns etc and the interview didn't last much longer.

Acceptance speech might be something.

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I wonder if they ever gave a Physics Nobel to a person who held a patent! People like Graham Bell never got recognized by the Nobel people. I get the impression that Physics Nobel prizes were more or less given only to University professors. They didnt seem to particularly care for people with grease on their hands

I don't really know what I'm talking about, but weren't there like 9 Nobel prizes awarded to Bell Labs engineers for physics? One of which (I think) being the invention of the transistor, which presumably had a patent.

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Next: Authors of "Attention is all you need" paper get Nobel Prize in Literature for writing one of the most read papers in past decade.

I think the Nobel Prize in Literature for "the most copied paper title" seems a better justification.

The first page of google for "Hopfield Networks" is "Hopfield Networks is all you need". No kidding...

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