Honestly it feels a bit weird with a Nobel laureate in physics who probably knows a lot less physics than even I* do… Makes me cringe a bit to be honest. Also makes me sad when I think about all the physicists and engineers who have made the chips that can train multi-billion parameter neural networks possible. I mean the so-called “bitter lesson” of AI is basically “don’t bet against the physicists at ASML et al”. N…
Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]
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Re: Nobel Prize in Physics awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton [pdf]
#302How do LeCun and Bengio feel about being left out of the most prestigous prize of them all? (Geoffrey Hinton, Yann LeCun, and Yoshua Bengio was together awarded the Turing prize in 2018...)
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Just wait till you hear what they built with all the things we learned about atoms and energy in the 30s and 40s!
Nuclear weapons have not been used since 1945. Do you think that systems like Lavender won't be used in the future? Zero chance.
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#304I'm annoyed that he was awarded just now, obviously as a reaction to ChatGPT and the breakthrough of LLMs. If his work is worthy, it has been worthy many years ago. This reinforces the reduction of ML to LLMs, just like the use of the term AI.
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#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
the economics prize is not 'official', it was established by the Swedish National Bank in honor to Alfred Nobel.
I see this written a lot, and I don’t get it. What matters for an award is that people recognise it as a prestigious accolade. The economics prize, while not “official”, is still recognised by everyone in economics as the highest honour in the field. Who cares if it’s “official” or not? Awards and prizes derive their value from their social recognition, which it has a solid amount of, at the very least.
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> His work is a net negative for the world. Bit early for this very Hacker News type blurt. Eg: Personalized medicine, predictive medicine, protein folding, climate modelling, smart grids, fraud detection, disaster response, food production modelling, etc.
So then wait until those promises have been fulfilled, as has so often been the case in Nobel prizes. Remember Higgs?
But the negative effects have been clear. Might just as well give the Nobel Peace Prize to Zuckerberg.
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#307Congrats to the laureates! Maybe a Computing prize should be created though, like Nobel did not create the "nobel prize of economy".Though you could argue that Computing is Math? What are computer scientists usually awarded with? edit: s/rewarded/awarded
I think there's some backlash against a google-able answer here. However, from memory the list of biggest awards for CS/Math are: Fields medal Abel prize Turing award Godel award