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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by AStonesThrow »

ninininino wrote: post #261
AStonesThrow wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you're thinking of the Wikimedia Foundation. There is plenty of space there for more volunteer editors to verify content, and likewise, WMF operates its own cloud platform where developers are automating tools that do maintenance and transformation on the human-contributed content. Then, there is Wikidata, a machine-readable Wiki. Many other projects draw data from here, so that it can be localized and presen…

I don't think you understand what I meant by human verified, but I used a very vague term to express what I meant, I meant proving that some input or data that comes from a user was generated by a human (whatever we define that to mean) rather than an LLM or multi-modal image/video/audio model output.

You mean, like, the Book of Kells and a nice stage production of Lysistrata, vs. a PowerPoint and Star Wars? Interesting.

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Post by Caius-Cosades »

rootusrootus wrote: post #77
CSMastermind wrote: post #57

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It really is a werid feeling remembering the internet of my youth and even my 20s and knowing that it will never exist again.

I'm a little sad for anyone who didn't get to experience the Internet of the twentieth century. It was a unique point in time. I'm ready to pay for a walled garden where the incentives are aligned towards me, instead of against me. I know that puts me in a minority, but I'm tired of the advertising 'net.

Isn't it worse knowing what was lost instead of never knowing how good things actually were?

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Post by jhanschoo »

silisili wrote: post #109
rootusrootus wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a little sad for anyone who didn't get to experience the Internet of the twentieth century. It was a unique point in time. I'm ready to pay for a walled garden where the incentives are aligned towards me, instead of against me. I know that puts me in a minority, but I'm tired of the advertising 'net.

I've said it before and say it again, I firmly think AOL was just ahead of its time. Bring it back. Charge me 10 or 20 a month. Give me the walled off chatrooms, forums, IM, articles, keywords, search, etc. Revamp it, make it modern. And make a mobile app. Everyone wanted a free and open Internet, until AI and the bots ruined it all.

I don't think it works today. You have walled communities in Discord and messaging apps, but if you are looking also for the degree of anarchy in those days, today we know that your everyday person can make money off the internet but you didn't know that then, and I think that colors a lot of the experience.

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Post by tivert »

tambourine_man wrote: post #255
arp242 wrote: post #249

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But I can generate something with AI and then sign it myself and say "I wrote it, pinky promise". Since most people don't write anything on the internet, I can pay people $5 to use their signature and operate a "sign farm". Look at the effort these people go though to send their spam.

Sure, but we’re working with a real person's reputation. If they are willing to gamble with AI, that’s their problem. I’m hoping for a “this human being validated this message”. I think that alone could solve multiple problems.

Maybe OpenAI is really just Sam Altman's last ditch effort to save WorldCoin?

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Post by sandspar »

limaoscarjuliet wrote: post #144

A lot of comments amount to: "Internet is dead". AI is crap for sure but far from making Internet dead or useless. Consider: - emails, - bills and payments, - banking, - searching for and buying stuff (assuming you already know what you want that is), - calls/chats - whatsapp, messenger, etc. - youtube (for learning), - social stuff - however bad. AI? This shall pass too. Internet will find its way.

Maybe it's more accurate to say that Web 2.0 is dead.

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Post by beefnugs »

limaoscarjuliet wrote: post #144

A lot of comments amount to: "Internet is dead". AI is crap for sure but far from making Internet dead or useless. Consider: - emails, - bills and payments, - banking, - searching for and buying stuff (assuming you already know what you want that is), - calls/chats - whatsapp, messenger, etc. - youtube (for learning), - social stuff - however bad. AI? This shall pass too. Internet will find its way.

Isn't this a self solving conundrum really? If google dies because of being completely useless, then no one has incentive to keep generating clickbait and fake content anymore do they?

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Post by renegat0x0 »

This might not be insightful, but I think we need to adapt.

Search and Internet is dead. It will be. There is no going back with AI. We must to learn how to deal with. You too should rethink how to approach the Internet, how to surf it.

If search is dead, are there any solutions to it? I use more RSS source now, because this is human created content. I navigate more to "word of mouth".

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

This phenomenon has been such a spur of motivation to start writing again. I love it.

The only way we can make sure the internet retains any goodness is by contributing good things to it. Passive consumption will rapidly turn into sub-mediocre drudgery. I suppose it already has.

Be the change you want to see, I guess. I’m a shitty writer, but at least I can beat the dissonant, bland, formulaic rambling of ChatGPT (here’s hoping, anyway).

I’m optimistic that a lot of us can keep something good going. We'll find ways to keep pockets of internet worth visiting, just like we did before search engines worked well.

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Post by _xiaz »

coldpie wrote: post #175
silisili wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've said it before and say it again, I firmly think AOL was just ahead of its time. Bring it back. Charge me 10 or 20 a month. Give me the walled off chatrooms, forums, IM, articles, keywords, search, etc. Revamp it, make it modern. And make a mobile app. Everyone wanted a free and open Internet, until AI and the bots ruined it all.

> until AI and the bots ruined it all Well... advertising as a business model ruined it all. They get paid for getting page views, so the business model optimizes for maximum page views at minimum cost of creation. This is the end result of what Google and Facebook have spent the last 20 years building. But I'm sure the engineers who built all this have very nice yachts, so it's all fine.

This is the root cause. "AI and Bots" are just two of the many symptoms

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Post by Doxin »

robsh wrote: post #81

DDG/Bing had only one Ai image for my search of baby peafowl. Unfortunately the one AI image was from stock.adobe.com

Same here. Seems like DDG does better (but not perfect) at avoiding nonsense results than google in this case.
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