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Where can I download this model? Meta is the open source AI company right?

Meta is not the open source AI company. LLaMa (or whatever capitialization that was) was leaked. They ran with that because hey it makes them stand out vs your "Open""AI" and Anthropic etc. But if strategy changes they will happily close the drawbridge. In other words it is a corporation and has no inherent persistent ethics.

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I've kinda given up on the internet at this point. It's sad but comforting. My social networks are just my friends and I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs. Don't want to be exposed to this endless slop. Every day it gets harder to find something that was so easy before. It's all being buried by endless content. I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be create…

The drama on this site regarding AI is absolutely hilarious. You'd think this group would be excited about game changing technology but well over half the crowd is crying over it. You deciding the Internet is broken or whatever is a you thing. The rest of humanity will continue to use, enjoy, and create new interesting stuff with it. As if most shit on the Internet hasn't been mostly trash to begin with. Even in the…

Sounds like they struck a nerve to make you this aggressive... I think the tech is cool. I also think it's making the web worse, because people use that tech to abuse the system.

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It's kind of an interesting phenomenon. I read something on this. Basically being born between ~1980 and ~1990 is a huge advantage in tech.

The only generation that ever knew how to set the clock on a VCR: our parents needed our help; our kids won't have even seen a VCR outside of a museum, much less used one.

The parents of those of us who grew up in the 80's and 90's invented the VCR, they could use it just fine.

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Thinking about abuse potential, is there such a thing as irreversible finger-printing of media generated like this? So that even bad actors couldn't hide the fact that it was generated by AI.

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But wouldn’t you want to know that something you made affected actual people in meaningful ways? I’d hate to have LLM bots drown out real people with actual opinions and experiences, and never know if I was actually reaching anyone.

I’ve heard similar equivalencies in the past and I don’t know what the root cause of someone feeling this way is? Apathy? I’ve heard coworkers argue that enjoyment from video games is equally valuable to enjoying time with your family or enjoying a walk. I’m a lifelong gamer and it’s still heartbreaking to hear people say the grass outside is no more valuable to them than what’s going on in a digital world. What is g…

> I’m a lifelong gamer and it’s still heartbreaking to hear people say the grass outside is no more valuable to them than what’s going on in a digital world.

Digital is just another part of the human experience, albeit much further removed from the surviving-in-the-savannah experience most of our ancestors evolved in.

For folks with significant limitations, screen-based experiences can be a huge enhancement and even a lifeline. A balanced life is such a subjective concept. IME it's easy and natural to judge, but not always fair or productive.

By all means, let's encourage people to try a wide variety of experiences in all available mediums. Yet without scolding or pity when they make choices we don't relate to.

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Thinking about abuse potential, is there such a thing as irreversible finger-printing of media generated like this? So that even bad actors couldn't hide the fact that it was generated by AI.

> is there such a thing as irreversible finger-printing

No.

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Imagine a herd of AI agents, indistinguishable from real human, are to interact with you and the content you create. Are you ok with it? Would you even care that they are not real people? Or maybe you'd even prefer them sometimes? Because that's where we are headed.

If the AI agents are indistinguishable from humans then it doesn’t matter how you feel about them.

At least until you do something that distinguishes them like try to sell merch or host a meetup.

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It's just a technology. Much like you can still buy "hand made" shoes, there will be people that create curated hand made content. And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? I really don't understand why there is so much negativity for a new technology. It's never explained, just taken as a fact and people bemoaning the new state of the world.

> And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? It does, yes. To use your own analogy, if one pays for an artisanal product and is served something out of a production line in a factory, that is fraud. > It's never explained You’re not paying attention, it is often explained. One huge reason is that it devalues the work of artists who are already struggling to make any money by using th…

> One huge reason is that it devalues the work of artists who are already struggling to make any money by using their own work as a base without compensation.

All productivity technology marginalizes sellers in the same field that choose not to use it. And somehow, I don't think the objections would be any less if models were trained on exclusivelt material in the public domain.

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Photo sharing websites (including Facebook) used to be wrappers around ImageMagick with extra features. I love how the backbone of their training involves calling out to ffmpeg. It gives a little hope to those of us who, too, are working on a smaller scale but with similar techniques.

Scale? I have access to an H100. Meta trained their cat video stuff on six thousand H100s.

They mention that these consume 700W each. Do they pay domestic rates for power? Is that really only $500 per hour of electricity?

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Did washing machine devalue the work of people washing by hand? Did cameras devalue the work of portrait artists? ATMs to bank tellers? Tractor to farmer? Car to horses? Again, it's technology. I guess I shouldn't have said I never heard an argument. I just never heard a good one that can't be applied to pretty much any other technology that came before.

These are false equivalences, or whataboutisms. The hand washers provided a very different ‘thing’. To that of artists. You mention things like getting clean clothes, getting from a to b in a car or on a horse, getting cash from an ATM instead from the teller at a bank branch. These are all completely different to the work of an artist or craftsperson that expresses something. So it’s very reasonable for people to se…

> These are all completely different to the work of an artist or craftsperson that expresses something

The thing is, as was the case with many goods where individual craftspeople were largely displaced by industrialized mass production, the expression of the individual artist or craftsperson was often not what the market was paying for anyway. They were paying for something utilitarian, but limited by the available methods of production.

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