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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #139

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As much as I want to like Claude, it sucks in comparison to ChatGPT in every way I've tested, and I'm going to use the better product. As a consumer, the governance model only results in an inferior product that produces way more refusals for basic tasks.

I have the exact opposite experience. I canceled my crapGPT subscription after >1 year because Claude blew it out of the water in every use case. Projector make it even better. But I could imagine it depends on the specific needs one has.

This is my experience as well. Claude excels on topics and in fields where ChatGPT 4 is nearly unusable.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #139

Mixed feelings about this: clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude. I like using Claude, and I'm also a big supporter of Anthropic - not just because it's an underdog, but due to its responsible and ethical corporate governance model[1], which stands in stark contrast to OpenAI. It's worrying to see ChatGPT close one of the gaps between it and Claude. [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/the…

As much as I want to like Claude, it sucks in comparison to ChatGPT in every way I've tested, and I'm going to use the better product. As a consumer, the governance model only results in an inferior product that produces way more refusals for basic tasks.

I code and document code and imho Claude is superior, try to tell Gpt to draw a mermaid chart to explain a code flow... the mermaid generated will have syntax errors half of the time.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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I have no love for Altman - he Altman seems like a (very successful) huckster to me, but I also read the sexual assault allegations as coming from a very mentally disturbed person, to the point that I'm not going to use that data point as part of my judgement of him.

I know nothing about these claims or Altman, but this argument fits the pattern of three commonplace threads that I hope people will notice in these situations:

1) Smearing the attacker: When someone unknown accuses or opposes a powerful public person, a standard response is to smear the accuser's credibility and reputation, creating doubts in onlookers, and causing day-to-day harm and high levels of stress and pressure for the accuser, and even causing danger (threats, doxxing, etc.). Powerful people can control the narrative - through contacts with other powerful people, by buying resources, or just posting on social media to their many followers. Also, powerful people already have a reputation that the accuser has to change, with many invested in believing it (even just as fans). Unknown accusers have no public reputation - often the only thing known is the smears from the powerful public person - and so others can say anything and it will be believable.

2) Mentally disturbed people - even if that part is true - can also be sexually assaulted. In fact, they are often targeted because they are more vulnerable, and you read again and again that accusers tell the vulnerable, 'nobody will believe you'. Let's not make those words true.

3) Sexual assault causes serious mental health issues.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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OpenAI seem to be slowly moving towards building an entire OS(or any other form of walled garden) that will be filled with LLM powered applications.

You get tighter feedback loops and better products if you own the vertical.

OpenAI already A/Bs test the responses it generates. Imagine if they own the text editor or spreadsheet you work on too. It’ll incorporate all of your edits to be self-correcting.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Don't fight this. Try to profit from it. People love these tools and they will become utterly, utterly dependent. Using a spell-checker, I have gradually lost my ability to spell. Using these LLM tools, large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals. The large number of tokens being processed by iterative models requires enormous energy. Look at the power draw of a Hop…

Counterpoint: don't try to own people like farm animals. Have pride in humanity, faith in your fellow man, and resist toxic cynicism.

Fortunes are made owning companies that sell harmful products. Domino's Pizza, Monster Energy Drink, etc.

Fortunes will be made selling electricity to people who develop serious cognitive dependence on LLMs.

There is no need for you to participate in the profits. I respect your life choices and I wish you well.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Canvas is closer to Cursor ( https://www.cursor.com ) than Claude. I wonder how Paul Graham thinks of Sam Altman basically copying Cursor and potentially every upstream AI company out of YC, maybe as soon as they launch on demo day. Is it a retribution arc?

> wonder how Paul Graham thinks of Sam Altman basically copying Cursor If OpenAI can copy Cursor, so can everyone else.

Yup. Prompts have no moat.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

75% of OpenAI's revenue is coming from their consumer business - the better question is the long term viability of their public API. But if they believe they're going to reach AGI, it makes no sense to pigeonhole themselves to the interface of ChatGPT. Seems like a pretty sensible decision to maintain both.

Apparently it is predicted(1) that their API is a profit making business while chatgpt is a loss leader so far…

(1) https://www.tanayj.com/p/openai-and-anthropic-revenue-breakd...

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no love for Altman - he Altman seems like a (very successful) huckster to me, but I also read the sexual assault allegations as coming from a very mentally disturbed person, to the point that I'm not going to use that data point as part of my judgement of him.

I know nothing about these claims or Altman, but this argument fits the pattern of three commonplace threads that I hope people will notice in these situations: 1) Smearing the attacker: When someone unknown accuses or opposes a powerful public person, a standard response is to smear the accuser's credibility and reputation, creating doubts in onlookers, and causing day-to-day harm and high levels of stress and press…

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#190

Why don't companies learn from the really best times of Apple; announce; immediately available. Sure I know why but that used to be why I liked them. This marketing grift is terrible.

Apple Intelligence won’t be available for months.

I am not talking about Apple now: 10 years ago they announced and I could order it the same night. That is magic. The rest is just; yeah who cares.
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